will you change your calving pattern when quotas go?

whelan2

just wondering a good post by mf240 has me wondering may/june calvers could be profitable

sheebadog

whelan2 wrote: »

just wondering a good post by mf240 has me wondering may/june calvers could be profitable

I calve a good few at that time. Get a right good kick from them when they hit grass the following February.

frazzledhome

whelan2 wrote: »

just wondering a good post by mf240 has me wondering may/june calvers could be profitable

How in the name of God could they be more profitable? Seasonal milk production is the way to profit.

Calve 20 Jan finish April dry Christmas growing and using as much grass as possible with 800kg meal and only 3 groups if animals on the farm

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

How in the name of God could they be more profitable? Seasonal milk production is the way to profit.

Calve 20 Jan finish April dry Christmas growing and using as much grass as possible with 800kg meal and only 3 groups if animals on the farm

Will you stop calving the few for winter? I'm at a crossroads with a decision here.
I was thinking there this evening, a lot of older farmers that me and my father would know who would typicly calve all winter and spring and buy heifers the whole time won't be around in a few years when my surplus stock arrive
Will the export market to England still be there in 2-3 yrs

sheebadog

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Now that part I really agree with.

Timmaay

I think a lot will depend on the uk market for cows! If they still keep giving a decent price for our April on calvers, you'd be mad to keep them instead, especially as almost every dairyfarm has the capacity to knock out excess numbers of replacements.

But whatever happens, my main aim is to keep on driving forward cow fertitily and try to remove these later cows from the system, when you look at profit monitor figures for that Kilkenny farmer who had an open day back in march (Walsh I think was his name), it really hammers home that having an extremely fertile herd, with a low number of replacements and very few late calvers delivers the best profit, largely disregardless of yield.

mf240

Can anyone tell me if glanbia are going to continue to fine you if you go over a certain percentage in june . Surely when bellviews up and running it wont be necessary.

Might make all spring calving on a very late farm like mine tricky if they continue.

RightTurnClyde

Not a hope of it. "Grass based Dairying 101", calve from end of Jan to 1st of April. Anything after that goes bye bye. I don't want them or their off spring. Keep it simple, anything after that your adding costs by complicating the system. Horses for courses though, if you have a later heavier farm, maybe you'd have to consider something different, but the place here is early so it would be bad farming on my behalf not to maximize grass.
The latest I'll be milking here is 15-20th of Dec. and back milking 4 weeks later.

Timmaay

mf240 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if glanbia are going to continue to fine you if you go over a certain percentage in june . Surely when bellviews up and running it wont be necessary.

Might make all spring calving on a very late farm like mine tricky if they continue.

No they threw that and the 2c/l levy out the window when strathroy put pressure on them with the Wexford lads!

keep going

Funnily enough I was just thinking this evening will I leave the bull in a bit longer this year, might be good demand for late calvers next year

loveta

mf240 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if glanbia are going to continue to fine you if you go over a certain percentage in june . Surely when bellviews up and running it wont be necessary.

Might make all spring calving on a very late farm like mine tricky if they continue.

Lake land are going to go hard on ones totally grass based with fines if you go over I think 14% of you annual supply in May. They say they need milk all year round to keep contracts filled

jaymla627

loveta wrote: »

Lake land are going to go hard on ones totally grass based with fines if you go over I think 14% of you annual supply in May. They say they need milk all year round to keep contracts filled

What kind of bonuses are lakeland paying for out of season autumn/winter milk, with glanbia at the mineute but lakeland are collecting in the area

loveta

bonus +4cents on base for nov and feb, and +5 on dec and jan, but ya have to be supplying them for most of the year and supply a min of 45% of your may supply each of the bonus months to get the bonus.