Do Strava (or other) segments affect your choice of route?

viperlogic

Do Strava (or Garmin etc) segments affect your choice of route?

I ask as was out for an easy 10K this morning on one of my usual routes when I remembered there were 2 Strava segments of 1K and 1.1K close by if I took a small detour and were easily beatable to get course record on them if I went at about 5K race pace on them. Normally I'm quite disciplined, as in run easy on easy day or tempo on tempo day but wasn't today!

statss

yeah, been getting stuck into Strava the last couple of weeks and I've found myself racing little segments when I shouldn't be. Good fun though.

Finnt

Just wondering, if I use my garmin to record a run can I upload it to strava? And if over the course of my run I'm faster over a segment will I be put on the leader board, without specifically going out to be? (I hope that makes sense!)

BeepBeep67

Finnt wrote: »

Just wondering, if I use my garmin to record a run can I upload it to strava? And if over the course of my run I'm faster over a segment will I be put on the leader board, without specifically going out to be? (I hope that makes sense!)

Sign up to Strava
Upload your run (used to be automatic before Garmin express), but just save your workout as a tcx file.
Once your privacy settings are open the segments will update automatically

nerraw1111

It's great for a bit of fartlek type runs. If I'm doing an easy run, I'll go hard over a short strava section for the craic.

viperlogic

Finnt wrote: »

Just wondering, if I use my garmin to record a run can I upload it to strava?

Strava works with near all watches, for my FR410 it detects a new activity from the ANT agent activity folder, for my FR220 and FR620 it will detect the watch if connected to the laptop/pc otherwise you could download the activity from Garmin Connect and upload it to Strava. Another way is to use http://www.copymysports.com which will copy your activites from Garmin Connect and upload them to Strava for you. I used to use it thou there can be a delay, anything from an hour to a day.

Finnt

Must try it! I downloaded the app there's a few around here seem a bit soft!! Great idea using it as part of a fartlek run, are the segments picked at random?

viperlogic

Finnt wrote: »

Must try it! I downloaded the app there's a few around here seem a bit soft!! Great idea using it as part of a fartlek run, are the segments picked at random?

No, users create them. I've a good few around Cork created

Finnt

I assume it knows whether you running up hills or down them?

opus

viperlogic wrote: »

Do Strava (or Garmin etc) segments affect your choice of route?

In a word no

Friend of mine who cycles a lot is all over it though.

Mr Freeze

If I'm feeling good and out on a training run I will have a go at the odd segment.

Plenty of little segments around town now, and a handful of runners contesting them.

shane1981

Finnt wrote: »

I assume it knows whether you running up hills or down them?

I was wondering about this last night actually. I was surprised that I got a PR for Military Road last night but then I was running downhill as opposed to my usual uphill on this segment.

snailsong

Mr Freeze wrote: »

If I'm feeling good and out on a training run I will have a go at the odd segment.

Plenty of little segments around town now, and a handful of runners contesting them.

And the emails about lost course records will keep coming.....

Mr Freeze

snailsong wrote: »

And the emails about lost course records will keep coming.....

Some can be reclaimed, others not so much!

viperlogic

snailsong wrote: »

And the emails about lost course records will keep coming.....

It can get additive……one time when out in Sant Feliu near Girona in Spain on holidays I went for a fast run around the hills. There was one nasty steep hill that I attacked and when got back home uploaded the run to Strava and noticed I got CR/KOM on it and a few other hills around Sant Feliu. An hour later I got an email saying that I lost the CR. Strange I taught at first for it to be beaten so fast but didn’t take much more notice. Few days later decided to do the same loop and try and get the CR/KOM again in which I did. An hour later while relaxing in the sun sipping away a nice well-earned cold pint near that hill, I see a guy flying up it and was thinking no way, is that the guy. 30mins later got the email saying that I had lost CR/KOM!!! Went to google the guy, it was ex pro cyclist Lilian Jégou !!!

And yes, he still has the CR/KOM but I will be back!

crisco10

shane1981 wrote: »

I was wondering about this last night actually. I was surprised that I got a PR for Military Road last night but then I was running downhill as opposed to my usual uphill on this segment.

Yep, it does. There are a few roads in my area with segments in both directions (with different times)...The uphill isn't always slower than the downhill though!

curtisbrown

I use the iOS app Connect Stats to export from Garmin to Strava

JohnDozer

Was trying to do this... Do you have to have the privacy I locked for all activities you want to transfer? If so any quick way to do it as it seems to be I can only do it for all new activities... Alternative seems to be to do it manually one by one...

nerraw1111

https://tapiriik.com/

Can transfer all your garmins to Strava.

adrian522

nerraw1111 wrote: »

https://tapiriik.com/

Can transfer all your garmins to Strava.

Yeah, and with this you can have it transfer all your private workouts too,

Mr Freeze

nerraw1111 wrote: »

https://tapiriik.com/

Can transfer all your garmins to Strava.

And Garmin and Strava will handle any duplicates too I suppose?

If an activity exists on both, it won't create it again ( i hope)?

Just running it now.

Finnt

Looking forward to trying this out now!!

rainbow kirby

Would have said no before, but I've just started using it for cycling, and it turns out I have 7th place on a short segment near my house and want to improve on that... :pac:

robinph

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Sign up to Strava
Upload your run (used to be automatic before Garmin express), but just save your workout as a tcx file.
Once your privacy settings are open the segments will update automatically

I uninstalled Garmin Express and went back to using the ANT software that actually works.

Finnt

I downloaded the strava app yesterday, I used it this morning. I cr'ed over a .2 mile section, the run was mostly easy but I knew I'd be running the segment so went hard over it.

mossym

definitely affects some people near me. some of the more regular running routes have some segments, whereby most people do the segment in the middle of their run. someone has been going around and sprinting just the segments themselves, starting and finishing their run at the segment start/end just to get the top spot.

more power to him, taking the kom that way doesn't bother me, i just couldn't use up running time like that when it could be enjoyed so much more

robinph

opus wrote: »

In a word no

Friend of mine who cycles a lot is all over it though.

I'd see the claiming of segments are easier pastime for those on wheels anyway, they can just roll around taking it easy in between segments and then bury themselves to claim an uphill segment. When running between segments and taking it easy though you still have to run so does not really suit going around a route trying to claim them in the same way.

Mr Freeze

Never considered the ones driving out and just going for a particular segment!

I always run to the segment I want to do and then make an attempt. Hopefully be in a good state to make a good attempt at the segment then.

I have seen issues with people doing a lot of running segments on bikes, mostly a mistake on their part, but with all the mutlisport events around Westport, come summer loads of the running segments get taken by people on bikes.

I once seen someone take a load cycling segments around Mayo, and comment on their "Ride", Ignore any KOMs, was done in a car! Instead of marking their activity as other! It was promptly flagged as an issue anyways.

crisco10

Read this yesterday, had a go at a few KOM's on my run home. Got one, victory!

It's a minor irritation alright when people log a ride as a run. Lot's of that in the Phoenix park too. I was looking at a segment along the military road there; a few people apparently doing steady 2:xx min/km with a heart rate of ~140BPM! That's a serious pace or someone on a bike!

viperlogic

Any suspicious results can be easily flagged in Strava and its removed from the results. Typically its a cycle logged as a run or the watch left on on the drive home

crisco10

viperlogic wrote: »

Any suspicious results can be easily flagged in Strava and its removed from the results. Typically its a cycle logged as a run or the watch left on on the drive home

Yeah, I always feel like a bit of a rat doing that. lol

robinph

I've often got an email repeatedly for the same segment and me loosing the KOM to the same person several times on different days as they learn how to reclassify their activity correctly. Don't care enough to report anything that's been wrongly classified, but I do like looking at segments after a race and seeing how far behind one of my club mates I may have been along a particular section or if I may have had a better time for one hill and they beat me on the next one.

Mr Freeze

robinph wrote: »

but I do like looking at segments after a race and seeing how far behind one of my club mates I may have been along a particular section or if I may have had a better time for one hill and they beat me on the next one.

You will love this so (if you haven't seen it already).

http://labs.strava.com/flyby/

Stick in the the strava link for your last race!

robinph

Why can't I hit the thanks button more than once. That is awesome.

nerraw1111

Mr Freeze wrote: »

You will love this so (if you haven't seen it already).

http://labs.strava.com/flyby/

Stick in the the strava link for your last race!

That is fantastic!!

statss

nerraw1111 wrote: »

That is fantastic!!

DCM2013 in all it's glory

http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#109337639

Krusty_Clown

Mr Freeze wrote: »

You will love this so (if you haven't seen it already).

http://labs.strava.com/flyby/

Stick in the the strava link for your last race!

It's the kind of content that makes me wonder why Garmin haven't bought Strava already, and fired their entire existing development team.

robinph

I now wish that I'd labeled my Strava activities properly rather than just uploading them, making it trickier to find the activities for certain races as I've never named them on Strava and just leave it to do it's think on upload.

viperlogic

robinph wrote: »

I now wish that I'd labeled my Strava activities properly rather than just uploading them, making it trickier to find the activities for certain races as I've never named them on Strava and just leave it to do it's think on upload.

The tagging feature is great also, eg run, workout, LSR, race etc and then when looking at http://www.strava.com/athlete/training/log you can easily find your different sessions especially races. Always considered going premium on Strava but theres not much more value add for runners but loads for cyclists.

Mr Freeze

robinph wrote: »

I now wish that I'd labeled my Strava activities properly rather than just uploading them, making it trickier to find the activities for certain races as I've never named them on Strava and just leave it to do it's think on upload.

Stick up a flyby link to one of your races, so we can see what its like.

Any of the races I have, only about 5 or 6 people upload to strava, so there isn't much to see.

viperlogic

There is also a Boards AC group on Strava... http://www.strava.com/clubs/boards-ac

Krusty_Clown

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Stick up a flyby link to one of your races, so we can see what its like.

Any of the races I have, only about 5 or 6 people upload to strava, so there isn't much to see.

Here's one: http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#145908813

jebuz

This flyby feature is so much better than space or dinosaurs. Any chance of a productive afternoon for me has just died.

Here's a recent race: http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#141599165,d6NvCEQHcAjZI3AIojNwCJw4cAiFTXAIGLpwCPLjcQjiWXIIY8tzCLH0gAgzArMI

Mr Freeze

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Here's one: http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#145908813

Yikes, I take it, you won!

Murph_D

viperlogic wrote: »

it was ex pro cyclist Lilian Jégou !!!

Was he on his bike at the time? :pac:

Mr Freeze

Does anyone know why this particular challenge does not appear in the regular challenges view?

http://www.strava.com/challenges/pave-batalla-de-junio

See the comments, others mention they can't see it, and mention settings to display secret challenges...are they pulling the p1ss? I don't see any settings on my pace for secret challenges?

Krusty_Clown

Strava wrote:

Uh oh! Xxxxxx Yyyyy just stole your CR!
Hey Krusty_Clown,
You just lost your CR on 1 track mile to Xxxxxx Yyyyy by 6s.
Now get out there, have fun and be safe.
-Your friends at Strava

What are these new unbridled emotions I'm experiencing? Disquiet? Anxiety? Anger? Rage? Twinned with a need for reciprocation and revenge. F*** You Strava, and your 'get out there, have fun and be safe'. Don't patronize me.

Not in my house... It's on...