Saturday 24/5

longshotvalue

Curragh 3:20

This race looks a pure 2 horse race to me between Kingman and War Command. Aidan O’Brien’s charge was poor enough in the English equivalent but is sure to improve for the run and put in the best 2yo performances of last year. The Favorite looks the most likely winner particularly given the softer than ideal ground but if it stays at the currant yielding then War Command is certainly not an 8/1 shot here. He looks more of a 5/1 shot and those sorts of margins have to be taken.

1 Point win 8/1 Generally

MoscowFlyer

Why the big drift on Sole Power?

longshotvalue

Haydock 2:05

This is a difficult race to start of the Scoop6 and a similar kind of case can be make for most of the field so I’m going with what looks the value bet here in Cruis tothelimit. He didn’t finish his race well at all last time out but he should improve for that and is back to within 2lbs of his last winning mark at Chester last year. He also has Superstar claimer Oisin Murphy claiming 3lbs today. He has come back from poor runs to win and run well numerous times in the past and 25/1 is bigger than I would have expected. I’ll be keeping these sprint handicaps to the min bet this summer as they are for the most part a lottery with a huge element of luck..

½ point win 25/1 Various

longshotvalue

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Why the big drift on Sole Power?

No chance of decent ground id imagine

Francie Barrett

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Why the big drift on Sole Power?

Mick Fitz said one of the jockeys reported the ground as being soft yesterday. With some rain over night, he didn't understand how the going could be described as good.

supremenovice

Michaelmas has a bit of form on the soft. Hes a nice each way bet @ 28/1.
I find this race is a poor mans Classic - look at Roderic O Connor and Power in recent years. Even Magician won last year and hes not a proper miler.

UrbanSea

You need to shop around supreme, Michaelmas only 28s in one spot he is widely available at 50s


I backed Peace Berg at 5s last night at the Curragh, and March in the Listed sprint at Haydock at 9/1. Not a day for going too wild.

oPATCHo

supremenovice wrote: »

Michaelmas has a bit of form on the soft. Hes a nice each way bet @ 28/1.
I find this race is a poor mans Classic - look at Roderic O Connor and Power in recent years. Even Magician won last year and hes not a proper miler.

Took 69/1's offered on the fair this morning

TheMilkyPirate

Don't usually do forecasts but I agree with Aidan here the guineas is a 2 horse race. I really like War command but I think kingman is a step above and will show that today. I did the forecast last night at 6.41.

UrbanSea

I think it's naive to say its a two horse race. Think this is the kind of race where there could be a shock just not sure by who. Obliterater could be one, though at a huge price I wouldn't totally discount Johann Strauss having finally got his head in front last time. He could be seen to good affect under a positive ride

NaiveMelodies

Shore Step, Obliterator and I'll Be Your Clown. Bit of a mouldy head on me so nothing major.

Be lucky folks.

UrbanSea

Soft to heavy now at the curragh

rossom

I think Esteaming 8/1 has a great chance of landing the opener.

Harry Angstrom

Sole Power N/R.

Francie Barrett

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Sole Power N/R.

War Command too.

sting60

Shore Step to run a big race but ground an issue.Bold Thady Quill will love the ground.Big Time in 2k Guineas.

Francie Barrett

The Great War now a NR. Racing at the Curragh turning into a bit of a joke today.

Backstreet Moyes

Lads can anybody tells me what happens done 3*2 euro doubles and a fiver treble. French Navy, Hot Streak and War Command. Does this just go to 3 euro singles and fiver double?

UrbanSea

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The Great War now a NR. Racing at the Curragh turning into a bit of a joke today.

In fairness a big change in ground

razorhead

Nuts102 wrote: »

Lads can anybody tells me what happens done 3*2 euro doubles and a fiver treble. French Navy, Hot Streak and War Command. Does this just go to 3 euro singles and fiver double?

2 x €2 single French Navy and Hot Streak, €2 double French Navy and Hot Streak and €5 double French Navy and Hot Streak

Penguin14

Anyone backing the forum favourite Maarek?

UrbanSea

With Moore now on Pearl Secret and he gets his soft ground he's worth a bet at 7/2

UrbanSea

UrbanSea wrote: »

With Moore now on Pearl Secret and he gets his soft ground he's worth a bet at 7/2

Had him backed already....main bet of the day. Jockey change as you say is a bonus

Shanee.

Kingman may not run now.. Jaysus

Kingman out now???

Harry Angstrom

It'll be ridiculous if Gosden pulls him.

UrbanSea

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It'll be ridiculous if Gosden pulls him.

Why?

Johner

Well done Oisin Murphy!

Harry Angstrom

UrbanSea wrote: »

Why?

Because you won't find an easier Classic to win all season.

UrbanSea

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Because you won't find an easier Classic to win all season.

Exactly so they must be incredibly concerned about the ground when they are considering pulling him. Imagine ruining the horse on heavy ground today and he doesn't run again this season. It would be silly to run the horse if they're that worried, there will be plenty more options for a group 1 this year if not today

Harry Angstrom

UrbanSea wrote: »

Exactly so they must be incredibly concerned about the ground when they are considering pulling him. Imagine ruining the horse on heavy ground today and he doesn't run again this season. It would be silly to run the horse if they're that worried, there will be plenty more options for a group 1 this year if not today

I'd be more worried if the ground was too firm for him.

UrbanSea

Unlikely given he has twice run on good to firm. He runs anyway

Harry Angstrom

UrbanSea wrote: »

Unlikely given he has twice run on good to firm. He runs anyway

The horse had surgery for a chipped joint last year. I wouldn't want to see him running on fast ground too often.

Gringo180

Goes to show how poor a race it is with Mustajeeb as second fav. Cant see him even placing here :eek:

UrbanSea

Strauss Strauss Strauss

Harry Angstrom

Evens is a lovely price.

Gringo180

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Evens is a lovely price.

Should win this in a canter if hes all he is cracked up to be. Went with Johann Strauss each way for a bit of value.

Johner

Come on Kingman you slut.

Johner

Get the **** in. Lovely performance.

Harry Angstrom

G'WAN ya good thing!

UrbanSea

Came away from them nicely. Classic in name only though you'd imagine

Gringo180

Shocking race turned into a 3f sprint. Winner is miles ahead of anything in that field

Harry Angstrom

Shifting Power should do the business in the Jersey at Royal Ascot after that run today.

Johner

I fancy Chatez in the last Scoop 6 race.

oPATCHo

nice one johner!

Johner

oPATCHo wrote: »

nice one johner!

Cheers! Had a bit on at 10/1 this morning. Also had him in my scoop 6, just a pity 4 others lost.

UrbanSea

Peace Berg Berg Berg

MonkstownHoop

I backed purr along at 12s in ladbrokes this morning, will I get paid the 20s it went off?

BumperD

No bet for me today. Really looking forward to tomorrow though