Root canal

CarMe

I had a root canal but it fell out and then the tooth chipped so the dentist but a temp filling in while I decide what to do. It's visible when I smile and I'm so self conscious about it I hate talking to people or smiling now so I need it sorted but my only option seems to be a root canal and crown which I've been quoted €850, I'm really hesitant about this when the dentist has said root canals aren't 100% and could fail. Are there any other options available to me? Would I be better saving for ages or getting a loan and having an implant instead?

Please advise me!

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Implants are not 100% successful either. If the tooth is salvageable, save it.

tooth_doc

nothing man made is 100% successful but having your own natural tooth in your mouth is 100% better than the best man made metal screw ( implant) in your mouth :-) ( i do implants as well ) .But I say this to every customer who asks me this question. I myself had a root canal 20yrs and still going strong under the crown, i replaced the crown 2yrs ago after 18 yrs of service :-)

Milly33

Are you saying that you had one root canal and that the filling feel out, Or are you saying that you got one down and are getting another done on the tooth. Sorry just a bit confusing the way you phrased it!

Im shocked and not so shocked at the prices of the root canals now, is the €850 just for the treatment itself or with the crown, if so tisnt too bad but if it isn't with the crown then id get a second price somewhere.. Do you completely trust your dentist too make sure you do as if anything does go wrong tis a real heartache for you as such..

Had a root canal on a front tooth and well im still waiting to get a crown but she kinda said look just do it when you have the money theres no rush but think it was around the 350/400 mark for it.. Much better to get it done I think or get an implant it is just up to you how you feel about the implants..Teeth are such a dose

CarMe

No I'll explain it better,

I had a root canal on this tooth about two years ago (tooth behind eye tooth) and never got a crown on it. The filling fell out last year and because I was really busy and broke I did nothing about it, then the whole front of the tooth chipped so it really is just a small stump of the tooth left.
So the dentist has quoted me 850 for (another?) root canal on it AND the crown.
I can't be without it because it looks pretty much gone now and I hate speaking to people and am always covering my mouth, it's really dented my confidence and want it fixed asap but most importantly for the long term.

Milly33

Ok I get you now. I still don't understand why you need another root canal treatment, as surely it would be that you need it to be filled. He has already don't he root canal treatment in it no...

€850 I suppose isn't that bad for the whole thing together and it would do an awfull lot for the confidance. Im the same I have one missing an old dentist said to pull a side one so not too bad but if I thought I had to loose another or a front one I think id be inconsolable..

tooth_doc

i think it is not the root canal filling that fell out but the top part of the filling that seals the actual root canal filling. but without seeing an xray I cant tell

CarMe wrote: »

No I'll explain it better,

I had a root canal on this tooth about two years ago (tooth behind eye tooth) and never got a crown on it. The filling fell out last year and because I was really busy and broke I did nothing about it, then the whole front of the tooth chipped so it really is just a small stump of the tooth left.
So the dentist has quoted me 850 for (another?) root canal on it AND the crown.
I can't be without it because it looks pretty much gone now and I hate speaking to people and am always covering my mouth, it's really dented my confidence and want it fixed asap but most importantly for the long term.

Milly33

I see I see, nasty stuff as if you didn't go through enough

leinsterdude

Hi, I went to get root canal treatment this week, but after lots of shots I could not numb, first time ever, Dentist said its cause of the infection, but I have been on antibiotics twice for this, the question is I am back for the second attempt next week, will it work ?

tooth_doc

This can sometimes happen , but there are modified techniques available to numb up a so called "hot" tooth or a "unnumbable" tooth , sorry i have to use a small bit of jargon here ask your dentist if he can do an 'intraosseous' anaesthetic , the advantage is the anaesthetic is placed virtually on the roots and effect is instantaneous but without any lip or tongue numbness

leinsterdude wrote: »

Hi, I went to get root canal treatment this week, but after lots of shots I could not numb, first time ever, Dentist said its cause of the infection, but I have been on antibiotics twice for this, the question is I am back for the second attempt next week, will it work ?

helimachoptor

tooth_doc wrote: »

This can sometimes happen , but there are modified techniques available to numb up a so called "hot" tooth or a "unnumbable" tooth , sorry i have to use a small bit of jargon here ask your dentist if he can do an 'intraosseous' anaesthetic , the advantage is the anaesthetic is placed virtually on the roots and effect is instantaneous but without any lip or tongue numbness

why isnt that done for all RCs?

tooth_doc

It is my preferred technique for a "hot " tooth and the relief for the customer is immediate , nowadays because of the added advantage of no associated lip or tongue numbness I virtually use it as the main technique , I suspect not everyone may do the IO technique heli, other than that I can't comment

helimachoptor wrote: »

why isnt that done for all RCs?

Zardoz

tooth_doc wrote: »

It is my preferred technique for a "hot " tooth and the relief for the customer is immediate , nowadays because of the added advantage of no associated lip or tongue numbness I virtually use it as the main technique , I suspect not everyone may do the IO technique heli, other than that I can't comment

I wish the endodontist I went to a few years ago had done this.:mad:
He couldnt numb my molar tooth so he gave me extra injections .One canal in particular was extremely sore ,he kept on injecting it ,with some force I may add, he was leaning in on the needle ,directly into the root ,and digging away at my jaw. He must have given it 6 or 7 jabs,it was ridiculous ,I was nearly passing out with the pain but eventually he numbed it .

Whats more he sealed the tooth up that day with Gutta Percha (it was my second visit) despite I expecting it to be left a few weeks more to let it calm down a bit.

It took well over a year for the pain to settle down despite the endodontist saying there was nothing wrong.
It felt like a deep burning ,throbbing sensation in my jaw under the tooth . Its still not right.
He wont be on my Christmas card list that's for one thing,all he wanted was the 800 euro fee.

tooth_doc

I am sorry to hear this , very bad luck

Zardoz wrote: »

I wish the endodontist I went to a few years ago had done this.:mad:
He couldnt numb my molar tooth so he gave me extra injections .One canal in particular was extremely sore ,he kept on injecting it ,with some force I may add, he was leaning in on the needle ,directly into the root ,and digging away at my jaw. He must have given it 6 or 7 jabs,it was ridiculous ,I was nearly passing out with the pain but eventually he numbed it .

Whats more he sealed the tooth up that day with Gutta Percha (it was my second visit) despite I expecting it to be left a few weeks more to let it calm down a bit.

It took well over a year for the pain to settle down despite the endodontist saying there was nothing wrong.
It felt like a deep burning ,throbbing sensation in my jaw under the tooth . Its still not right.
He wont be on my Christmas card list that's for one thing,all he wanted was the 800 euro fee.

RainyDay

Can anyone comment on root canal success rates?

My high-cost dentist is quoting €900 for a root canal with a 'specialist' in their surgery. I didn't ask him about success rates.

My low-cost dentist is quoting €450 for a root canal done by herself, and tells me her success rate with root canals is about 50/50, which seems low to me, but I don't have anything to compare against. Is 50/50 a reasonable expectation?

btkm8unsl0w5r4

No. 50/50 is not good enough. A root canal specialist can hit around 98 percent success. Dentists generally know the value of their work. Read my signature.

RainyDay

Everett Flat Selenium wrote: »

No. 50/50 is not good enough. A root canal specialist can hit around 98 percent success. Dentists generally know the value of their work. Read my signature.

Thanks, I'm not seeing your signature at all. I've checked my options and appearance settings, but I don't see anything in there that would be hiding signatures for me - any ideas?

ohnonotgmail

RainyDay wrote: »

Thanks, I'm not seeing your signature at all. I've checked my options and appearance settings, but I don't see anything in there that would be hiding signatures for me - any ideas?

this bit. Its written in very small blue text so is hard to see with certain colour schemes.

"There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better." - John Ruskin

wise words indeed.

RainyDay

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this bit. Its written in very small blue text so is hard to see with certain colour schemes.




wise words indeed.

Yep, I get the point, and in fairness, that was what was behind my question. However, there is a risk of going too far the other way, particularly in a complex and sensitive area like dentistry or medicine. We shouldn't be afraid of asking questions, investigating, shopping around etc - but buyer beware of course.

Any other opinions on root canal success rates are most welcome.