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Say you were given enough cash to clear your mortgage, would you do it or keep it?

  • 22-05-2014 8:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭


    A thread in legal discussion this morning made me wonder about the below.

    So you bought a house at top of Boom and got a mortgage of 400k

    House is now worth 150k and you have 200k outstanding on mortgage remaining.

    If you were given a payment of 200k, would you clear it off?

    As someone who is not in that position it seems like a no brainer for me but to pay it off. But I feel others may differ on that opinion hence the poll?

    What would you do? 85 votes

    Pay it 100% off and get on with your life
    0% 0 votes
    Pay a different % off and reduce your payments going forward
    74% 63 votes
    Say f*** them, give the bank nothing, stay in situ, sure everyone else is getting away with it
    23% 20 votes
    Skip the country with the money and forget about it all!
    2% 2 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Vegas no brainer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Pay it off and move on with your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Pay off mortgage. You're saving yourself a fortune in interest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    ...on if the bank could follow you for the mortgage if they forced sale of the house and got a low price for it that did not cover the full costs and then came after you for the shortfall.

    In some jurisdictions the bank can only sell the house and cannot pursue you for the shortfall if any. But in Ireland I think you are still liable for any shortfall on the sale of a house and the banks can pursue for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    It's the cheapest money you'll ever borrow.

    So if you can earn more by saving it I'd do that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Rachiee


    I would definitely pay it off that way instead of being rich for little while you'll be better off for the rest of your life. it would like getting a cash prize versus a pay rise off 1000 euro per month for the next 25 years.its definitely a better deal one other thing you could do though is nearly pay it off but keep some for a nice car and holiday thereby reducing your monthly repayment with a promise you'll have it paid off soon and still get to treat yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I'd pay 100k off it and take the pressure off a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    I'd definitely invest the €200k on the markets. It's very foolish to have most of your net worth tied up in one asset class and even more foolish to have it tied up in one market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    Depends on your borrowing rate, if you could get a better rate saving it then save until the borrowing rate goes above saving rate, then clear it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    I would pay off 150k and use 50k to buy a bolt hole in canaries or somewhere. Wait for the market to rise in my area and sell my house, pay off remainder of mortgage, buy a smaller house at home mortgage free and enjoy my life more.

    So where do I sign up for this free money?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Clear it, put 75% of what the mortgage payment was into savings or alternatively increase your pension payment so it's invested in the markets (depending on pension plan).


    After 10-15 years you would have a nice little nest egg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    i'd give it to the wife and it'd probably slip my mind


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd pay it all off but not before negotiating down the amount to be paid.

    Then I can start planning travelling around the world indefinitely without having to worry about meeting the monthly mortgage payments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Pay it off. It might cost you say 100k now but you might be paying 150k over the next 10 or 15 years or whatever the term is, so you save 50k.

    You don't have a lump sum but you have your monthly mortgage payment in your back pocket. Having that increase in disposable income every month might mean people would spend it more wisely than getting a big lump sum and blowing it as is often the case.

    Another factor is the sense of liberty of living in a mortgage free home. I don't see the mortgage as a noose around my neck but for some people there would be certain relief in paying it off and being done with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    I'd pay it all off but not before negotiating down the amount to be paid.

    Then I can start planning travelling around the world indefinitely without having to worry about meeting the monthly mortgage payments.

    Hello Mr Bank Manager, I'd like to pay off my mortgage please.

    Certainly that will be €200k.

    How about I give you €100K and we call it quits?

    No, it's €200K.

    Ok, here you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Check if the €200k includes interest, and how less I end up paying by doing so in a lump sum. If I don't save anything, query why not. Better the loose change is in my pocket than theirs.

    Mortgage free house means should I lose my job, I still have a roof over my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Linka


    Pay it all off in one go. No use living it up only to still have that debt hanging over you when it's all spent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I think some people don't get how finance can work to your advantage.

    It may well be better to buy another property with a rental income that will pay of your mortgage.

    Personally my tracker is worth a lot of money and it is possible to have a guaranteed income from a rental property. You can also take time off work with your tax free allowance being used against your rental income. To an extent that means you get paid when you aren't working.

    Each to their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I would pay 100% of the mortgage immediately. I'd be saving €1100 a month which would leave me comfortably off for the test of my life. It's a no brainier.


  • Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    People will rabbit on about how you'd be mad to pay it off as the interest paid on the loan is less than the interest you receive on deposit.

    These people bore me to death cause the day I pay my mortgage is going to be one of the happiest days of my life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Linka


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    It may well be better to buy another property with a rental income that will pay of your mortgage.

    Have you considered that some people don't wish to become landlords? That doesn't come without it's hitches, headaches and legal wrangles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    I was lucky enough to sell my share in a business that was doing well back in the the late '90's. Walked into the bank and done away with the mortgage and it was probably the best thing I ever done. Now my family have a roof over their heads no matter what - and having been seriously ill I appreciate the importance of that. I may not be clever, educated or well off - but I have a pot to piss in and 3 squares a day and that will do me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,365 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Depends on whether I'd a tracker on the boom time mortgage or not but most likely at least half would go into other investments


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    It would actually cost you a lot of money to pay off your mortgage. The banks would be looking for the interest on the money as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I'd bung about half at the mortgage to put manners on it, and keep the rest just ta have loadsamoney!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,365 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    It would actually cost you a lot of money to pay off your mortgage. The banks would be looking for the interest on the money as well.
    I seem to remember that being made illegal over a decade ago...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Paying it off makes no sense whatsoever, take the 200k invest in markets and you should be able to make 7-10% per year, use that to keep paying off your mortgage and making a little on the side, when your mortgage is payed off you still will have your 200k in liquid cash no tied up in a house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    Sleepy wrote: »
    I seem to remember that being made illegal over a decade ago...

    well a couple of years ago, we renegotiated our mortgage repayments so we could overpay on the mortgage. The bank told us that normally they wouldn't allow a borrower to make repayments of the amount that we wanted to, but we could do it for a year. By the way the amount we were overpaying by was not huge.

    I dont know what the story would be by paying off the principal in one go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Is there a fee for paying off a mortgage early or for paying a lump sum towards the mortgage?

    I know I'm in a position to pay mine off now but I won't simply because the money is worth more in the various accounts that then interest I'd save myself from having to pay.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    Is there a fee for paying off a mortgage early or for paying a lump sum towards the mortgage?

    I know I'm in a position to pay mine off now but I won't simply because the money is worth more in the various accounts that then interest I'd save myself from having to pay.

    I just looked this up..

    http://www.consumerhelp.ie/extra-mortgage-payments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Linka wrote: »
    Have you considered that some people don't wish to become landlords? That doesn't come without it's hitches, headaches and legal wrangles.
    Agreed but you can sign up for RAS and you don't have to do anything. The income is guaranteed as is the maintenance.

    The hitch is it doesn't pay the same level of rent.

    You would be doing a public serves too as so many people have pulled out of the scheme while demand has increased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    CJC999 wrote: »
    I would pay 100% of the mortgage immediately. I'd be saving €1100 a month which would leave me comfortably off for the test of my life. It's a no brainier.

    A no brainer in that it would not be the best use and you could get more out of it.

    People ever wonder why the rich get richer, they use their money and assets wisely.


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