Extension advice

MarcusP12

Hi folks,

We're looking to do a fairly big job on our end terrace house and are looking for a bit of a steer to see how we kick start the project. We have about 100k to play with based on preliminary consultations with our bank so we're thinking of a rolls Royce job which involves going for planning. In summary what we'd like to do is extend the living area out back inc utility room and a downstairs wc (40m2 at least), convert the attic including squaring off roof at back,extend out hall by a couple of meters and do a job on the house insulation.

We're happy to go with an architect to do a turn key project management job to take the hassle out of it for us including getting planning. So my questions would be:

1. What should we expect to pay (roughly) for an architect to run this type of a project (planning,tender,construction management,etc)?

2. How do you go about appointing the right architect? Is it a case of going to recommended ones and meeting a few to run through ideas and fees before deciding on a particular architect?

3. Is there still the tax incentive for home extension works and also sustainable energy grants for insulation and if so when does it run out and how does it work?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Mp

BryanF

+40m2 & attic conversion assuming some mods to existing house will swallow 100k pretty quickly.
1. Expect 10% for architect
2.recommendations, meetings, quotes.
3. Yes & yes
Have a quick look around the forum for further info

DOCARCH

Also read this...http://www.scsi.ie/guidetonewbuildingregs

And this...http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Publications_and_Forms/Publications/Construction/homeowners_guidance.pdf

GirlsWonder

MarcusP12 wrote: »

Hi folks,

We're looking to do a fairly big job on our end terrace house and are looking for a bit of a steer to see how we kick start the project. We have about 100k to play with based on preliminary consultations with our bank so we're thinking of a rolls Royce job which involves going for planning. In summary what we'd like to do is extend the living area out back inc utility room and a downstairs wc (40m2 at least), convert the attic including squaring off roof at back,extend out hall by a couple of meters and do a job on the house insulation.

We're happy to go with an architect to do a turn key project management job to take the hassle out of it for us including getting planning. So my questions would be:

1. What should we expect to pay (roughly) for an architect to run this type of a project (planning,tender,construction management,etc)?

2. How do you go about appointing the right architect? Is it a case of going to recommended ones and meeting a few to run through ideas and fees before deciding on a particular architect?

3. Is there still the tax incentive for home extension works and also sustainable energy grants for insulation and if so when does it run out and how does it work?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Mp

Hi. I would not get an architect to project manage. Get a good builder to do the same thing. Easier to work with. Good Luck!

TheDriver

plus get someone who can draw plans, engineer and do structural work. Nothing worse than an architect who plans something that's going to cost a fortune structurally........

Mr Steak

MarcusP12 wrote: »

Hi folks,

We're looking to do a fairly big job on our end terrace house and are looking for a bit of a steer to see how we kick start the project. We have about 100k to play with based on preliminary consultations with our bank so we're thinking of a rolls Royce job which involves going for planning. In summary what we'd like to do is extend the living area out back inc utility room and a downstairs wc (40m2 at least), convert the attic including squaring off roof at back,extend out hall by a couple of meters and do a job on the house insulation.

We're happy to go with an architect to do a turn key project management job to take the hassle out of it for us including getting planning. So my questions would be:

1. What should we expect to pay (roughly) for an architect to run this type of a project (planning,tender,construction management,etc)?

2. How do you go about appointing the right architect? Is it a case of going to recommended ones and meeting a few to run through ideas and fees before deciding on a particular architect?

3. Is there still the tax incentive for home extension works and also sustainable energy grants for insulation and if so when does it run out and how does it work?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Mp

Looks like a €220k job properly done

MarcusP12

Thanks for the replies guys....just to provide a bit more context, we're keen to employ a good architect who will optimise the space and layout and just take the hassle out of it for us. We've number 2 on the way at the end of November and the plan is to have planning in place by the end of the year and have the work done by the end of next summer before my wife goes back to work as a teacher. That's the plan anyway!

Plus, I'm also an engineer myself but am more of a "manager" these days as opposed to a designer and besides, I wouldn't have the right experience to put designs together for a domestic project,especially with the amended building reg controls in place. I do know architects and technicians though. What that means is that although I wouldn't have the time or experience to take on this project myself, I would have the knowledge and background and access to experience to have a bigger say and control over how things are done over the average joe soap without a construction background. I'd be fairly sure I can foresee a "vanity" project before it gets out of hand.....

Jaysus, €220k for extension,attic conversion and insulation? I'd like to think we could get all that done to a decent standard for half that unless I'm missing something?

scwazrh

I would advise against an architect who works on a % of overall project . Get them to design and then offer a fixed cost for management fee.In my experience clients budgets no matter how large they seem at the beginning of work always end up being a tight budget by the end of the job so fix every cost possible before work starts.

Gumbo

GirlsWonder wrote: »

Hi. I would not get an architect to project manage. Get a good builder to do the same thing. Easier to work with. Good Luck!

Now will the OP get a completion certificate from the Local Authorithy then?

BryanF

scwazrh wrote: »

I would advise against an architect who works on a % of overall project . Get them to design and then offer a fixed cost for management fee.In my experience clients budgets no matter how large they seem at the beginning of work always end up being a tight budget by the end of the job so fix every cost possible before work starts.

assuming the Client provides a clear Brief for the architect to price at the beginning of the job..

scwazrh

BryanF wrote: »

assuming the Client provides a clear Brief for the architect to price at the beginning of the job..

Hence the reason I said design first and then price for management.Project management in small scale residential works is easy enough to cost .

However if you mean quoting a design cost to a customer who doesn't know what they want , I would agree with you completely.I have seen many young architects design a project 5 - 6 times and still be "wrong " in the minds of the customer , and all done for a fixed price ..

BryanF

scwazrh wrote: »

I have seen many young architects design a project 5 - 6 times and still be "wrong " in the minds of the customer , and all done for a fixed price ..

leave out the 'young' & 'wrong' thank you very much!!!