Stretching tyres

hoodie6029

Does anyone know of a garage in Dublin that will stretch tyres? My mate has a show car and is having trouble finding somewhere that will do it for him.

Thanks

Gumbo

hoodie6029 wrote: »

Does anyone know of a garage in Dublin that will stretch tyres? My mate has a show car and is having trouble finding somewhere that will do it for him.

Thanks

Pro Parts in Coolmine, Dublin 15.

hoodie6029

Thanks kceire!

quadrifoglio verde

The Polish chaps in Red Cow Tyres do it for a fiver a tyre. Friend of mine has used them a good few times and has nothing but praise for them

wildefalcon

What does stretching a tyre involve? What does it achieve? Never heard of it!

Toyotafanboi

wildefalcon wrote: »

What does stretching a tyre involve? What does it achieve? Never heard of it!

well you're not actually stretching the tyre really.

just fitting a tyre that is too thin for the wheel it's being fitted to, making it a little difficult to get it to seal and inflate sometimes.

this sort of thing. wouldn't have much faith in it myself, but whatever.

wildefalcon

Gotcha!

Thanks.

*Kol*

I have seen tyres on wheels like that. Why would you do that?

Gumbo

*Kol* wrote: »

I have seen tyres on wheels like that. Why would you do that?

That pic seems to be at the extreme end though.

CianRyan

*Kol* wrote: »

I have seen tyres on wheels like that. Why would you do that?

People will tell you it's for less rolls and all the mad JDM drifters do it.
The Japanese dudes do it alright but it's just a style thing.

RandomAccess

Looks kinda dodge.

Gumbo

CianRyan wrote: »

People will tell you it's for less rolls and all the mad JDM drifters do it.
The Japanese dudes do it alright but it's just a style thing.

+1

It's a style thing and it's done for the very same reason why people buy a Mondeo or a silver car, personal choice.

Toyotafanboi

i thought it was to keep your tyres under your arches for legal reasons while you were wearing wheels that were too big. like this.

CianRyan

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i thought it was to keep your tyres under your arches for legal reasons while you were wearing wheels that were too big. like this.

It does help with tuck but have you seen half the cars in Japan?
Their mod restrictions aren't all that strict.

vectra

Tin of Hairspray and a cigarette lighter,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7bN8WPok9E

mickdw

Should be outlawed.
Fitting tyres to rims way outside tyre manufacturer approved dimensions cannot be safe.
Looks quite a scumbag setup imo.

cabb8ge

Any car with tyre like this should be impounded by AGS.

BMJD

Down with this sort of thing!

CianRyan

Never seen any accidents happen because if it, tyres loosing air yeah but that's just annoying for the lads who are running them.

Down with brown nosing.

Toyotafanboi

i'd say the stability of the tyre would be severely compromised under harsh loads. grand for farting around looking fancy, but if i had to turn and brake suddenly at 100km/h in the wet i would be absolutely panicking :P

that said, everything in moderation, a little stretch is probably fine.

tossy

mickdw wrote: »

Looks quite a scumbag setup imo.

Scumbags are people who shoot innocent people, murder Grannies, rob people out of their life savings, these are the type of people i reserve the word scumbag for , not people who stretch tyres on a show car, jesus.

CianRyan

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i'd say the stability of the tyre would be severely compromised under harsh loads. grand for farting around looking fancy, but if i had to turn and brake suddenly at 100km/h in the wet i would be absolutely panicking :P

that said, everything in moderation, a little stretch is probably fine.

Seeing as it's the side wall that compromised and not the thread I'd be more worried about harsh bends in the dry.

challengemaster

CianRyan wrote: »

Never seen any accidents happen because if it, tyres loosing air yeah but that's just annoying for the lads who are running them.

Down with brown nosing.

I remember one year at Japfest some hilarity ensued when someone with stretched tyres returned to their parked car to find the tyre had popped off the rim while they were in the stands in mondello.

goz83

kceire wrote: »

+1

It's a style thing and it's done for the very same reason why people buy a Mondeo or a silver car, personal choice.

What if the car is a Silver Mondeo? :eek:

vectra

kceire wrote: »

+1

It's a style thing and it's done for the very same reason why people buy a Mondeo or a silver car, personal choice.

Nothing wrong with owning a silver car :P

jimgoose

I wasn't aware that this was a "Thing". Probably something along the same lines as Bōsōzoku, which is Japanese for "stupid-looking". :pac::pac::pac:

Matt Simis

jimgoose wrote: »

I wasn't aware that this was a "Thing". Probably something along the same lines as Bōsōzoku, which is Japanese for "stupid-looking". :pac::pac::pac:

mickdw wrote: »

Should be outlawed.
Fitting tyres to rims way outside tyre manufacturer approved dimensions cannot be safe.
Looks quite a scumbag setup imo.

Ive always ran stretched setups. However the photo posted here was of something far beyond normal and completely off the wall. My 255's are technically stretched on a 10.5" rim, the difference being 255s are not a narrow tyre so the proportional % stretch is a lot lower and the profile is high (45s IIRC). Higher profile tyres afford far more vertical height to be spread in the stretch.




Never had a comment from anyone, Police, NCT or the 4 agencies that inspected and tested the car to get it road legal in NZ.

Paddy@CIRL

Somebody might want to tell Porsche that their Carrera Cup cars are only for scumbags too, considering they've been stretching slicks on them for years.

Del2005

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

Somebody might want to tell Porsche that their Carrera Cup cars are only for scumbags too, considering they've been stretching slicks on them for years.

You can do whatever you like to a car that isn't going on the public road.

Spook_ie

mickdw wrote: »

Should be outlawed.
Fitting tyres to rims way outside tyre manufacturer approved dimensions cannot be safe.
Looks quite a scumbag setup imo.

Scumbag or not I'd doubt the legality of it as it looks like an NCT fail

Reason for failure

2
Incorrectly seated on wheel rim.

http://www.ncts.ie/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf

Page 60 of 96

hi_im_fil

I've had 245/40/18 tyres fitted to a 10.5 inch rim and pass NCT. Up to the testers discretion maybe?

Paddy@CIRL

Del2005 wrote: »

You can do whatever you like to a car that isn't going on the public road.

Actually, you can't. Porsche are hardly going to send customers out onto race tracks in packed grids with serious safety issues. It's like everything, common sense must apply and in moderation is fine. Just don't try to fit a 165 onto an 11J and all will be good with the world

corkgsxr

Didnt it come from japan where there was a max tire width and they streched tires so they could run nice alloys.

I read something about it but it was years ago

*Kol*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jL7glWwMo

Paddy@CIRL

corkgsxr wrote: »

Didnt it come from japan where there was a max tire width and they streched tires so they could run nice alloys.

I read something about it but it was years ago

It was started in Europe back in the '80s to get around the rule of your tyre thread having to be inside the wheel arch. Today it's mostly used in situations where someone wants to run wider wheels with aggressive offsets but to retain arch clearance. It's also used by the drifting community as the narrower tyres are usually cheaper and / or they're not as fussy with what they can get their hands on as they'll burn through them in a couple of laps anyways.

CJhaughey

Spook_ie wrote: »

Scumbag or not I'd doubt the legality of it as it looks like an NCT fail

Reason for failure

http://www.ncts.ie/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf

Page 60 of 96

Thats the thing, the tyres are not seated incorrectly, the bead is seated.
The failure that that refers to is where the bead is not seated in the rim properly.

Renegade Mechanic

CJhaughey wrote: »

Thats the thing, the tyres are not seated incorrectly, the bead is seated.
The failure that that refers to is where the bead is not seated in the rim properly.

There really is only one scenario where the bead is detached from the rim, and to be honest. Driving a car to an Nct center just to see the look on their face when they walk out hits me as frankly hilarious

Spook_ie

CJhaughey wrote: »

Thats the thing, the tyres are not seated incorrectly, the bead is seated.
The failure that that refers to is where the bead is not seated in the rim properly.

Fair enough but can't see how running a tyre with the sidewall basicly forming part of the tread can be, in anyway, sensible

corkgsxr

Spook_ie wrote: »

Fair enough but can't see how running a tyre with the sidewall basicly forming part of the tread can be, in anyway, sensible

You not running on the sidewalls. Its still on the treads.

CianRyan

Spook_ie wrote: »

Fair enough but can't see how running a tyre with the sidewall basicly forming part of the tread can be, in anyway, sensible

Wow, you'd want to be putting a wheel barrow tyre on a truck to do that.