Immigration/Visas/Pregnancy/Marriage Options?

l3LoWnA

I'm hoping there will be someone on here with some experience or advice. I'm posting on behalf Of my dear friend who has just found herself is a "situation" which is quite daunting and stressing her out.

She's Irish and living here. Met her new boyfriend a few months ago just a week after he arrived here from Kenya on a 10 month working visa.

All going great between them but an "Accident" happened and she's now pregnant. He's due to return to Africa when his contract ends and visa runs out in October. She doesn't want him to leave, she's due baby in January.

They both want to be together but don't know what they're options are. Neither of them have much money... She's a working lone parent, he's a low earner.

Where do they go from here? Marriage has been mentioned but he wants to work ASAP here after marriage as he wants to contribute to family as much as e can (he has strong work ethic but little qualifications)

Is their best option to register a intent to marry soon and get that done before his working visa expires or wait and he stays on until baby is born. She thinks, because of my line of work I would give correct advice but from what I've read a marriage doesn't guarantee anything about him being able to stay and especially work here plus there's oodles of paperwork involved and an onus on the Irish citizen to prove they can support the spouse (financial accounts etc.....hers would be in fire straits... She needs him here to support with this new baby)

Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated. Thanks

l3LoWnA

*their* and *dire* ooops iphone typos sorry!!

Holsten

Read this;

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000024

Won't be easy.

l3LoWnA

Thanks Holsten. Trust me, I've read that INIS site for almost 4 hours today, however, there's not much specific guidelines as to when the non eea resident is here on a work permit when the marriage takes place.

Could it be as simple as submitting this form before his work permit expires and after they marry :-

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Form%20EU1.pdf/Files/Form%20EU1.pdf

From what I see they would need to get finances in order quickly (almost impossible) and get some proof of address etc (his work involves travelling so they have not even lived together !! It would be terrible for them if he couldn't be around for the baby's arrival. Surely, when immigration officials see her big baby bump and know she also works for a government department (very similar to themselves) they might take sympathy or trust that intentions are true..... I feel so sorry for her right now. She doesn't need this stress.... Silly girl.

Jacovs

Idk if things have changed in the last 18-24 months, but here's how it went for me.

Im from South Africa, gf is Irish. She visited me in SA for 2 months, and got pregnant in that time. Once baby was born (in Ireland) I came over to Ireland (on holiday visa) and then sent a letter to INIS stating I want residency based on being a parent of an Irish citizen. They then sent back a letter stating all the evidence and such I need to send them, which I did, and they sent back my residency approval the next week. Went to the GNIB with the approval letter, registered, paid the 150euro (now 300 I think) and got my stamp 4 residency for 3 years. There is an EU ruling in a Zambrano case that says they cant refuse the parent of an Irish child residency once certain conditions are met.
Tell your friend to go to the GNIB offices on Burgh Quay and ask them about the Zambrano case and how things work now.

This answers a few questions regarding the Zambrano case.
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP11000038

l3LoWnA

Jacovs... Thank you!! You make it sound a little more simple and less scary!! I know the baby being born will help matters but they're hoping he came remain for that window between when his work permit expires and the baby is born (2 months) maybe his now boss would extend the work permit for him.... Hmmm so much to think about.

Jacovs

I came over for a month for the birth, then went back to SA for 2 months to finish a work contract and get my stuff in order, then came back to Ireland in august, and then applied for residency, after I got here, as thats what they advised me to do. Im still here now and we arent married yet.

Id advise them to put his name on the birth certificate when registering the birth, because otherwise he will have to get a paternity test done to satisfy the INIS. Worst case, in my opinion, he has to go back to Kenya for the 2 month gap.
Also, keep all proof for anything relating to their relationship, and anything he buys for the unborn child. They want to see he is a part of the baby's life, and not just a sperm donor that wants to get into Ireland that way. I sent in a file about 50 pages thick with evidence and cross referenced everything for them to make it as easy as possible.

Just make sure about the procedures now, as I think they did change stuff a bit.

22holly

Im an irish citizen by naturalization. I have a girlfriend that her visa expired already and shes now 3 month pregnant. I am the father of the child. We went already to the GP and to the Maternity hospital and everything went fine anyway. The only Query that i would like to ask if what will be her status after giving birth here in ireland? I will appreciate if you could help me guys...thanks!