Enough of the whingeing

Ninap

Anyone else tired of all the bellyaching of the general populace? it gets particularly bad at election times. Every 'ordinary Joe' on the radio or tv is complaining constantly and about everything (in particular property taxes and water taxes). Get over it! Apart from the fact most Irish people want great public services, but don't want to pay for them, for these people, everything bad in their lives is someone else's fault. I'm particularly sick of people giving out about politicians; go and stand for election if you think you'd be better.

Hazys

Whinging about whinging...whingception?

dxhound2005

Ninap wrote: »

Anyone else tired of all the bellyaching of the general populace? it gets particularly bad at election times. Every 'ordinary Joe' on the radio or tv is complaining constantly and about everything (in particular property taxes and water taxes). Get over it! Apart from the fact most Irish people want great public services, but don't want to pay for them, for these people, everything bad in their lives is someone else's fault. I'm particularly sick of people giving out about politicians; go and stand for election if you think you'd be better.

A few people will be along shortly to tell you that you are a bendy over sheep sent here by FG.

LowOdour

Ninap wrote: »

Anyone else tired of all the bellyaching of the general populace? it gets particularly bad at election times. Every 'ordinary Joe' on the radio or tv is complaining constantly and about everything (in particular property taxes and water taxes). Get over it! Apart from the fact most Irish people want great public services, but don't want to pay for them, for these people, everything bad in their lives is someone else's fault. I'm particularly sick of people giving out about politicians; go and stand for election if you think you'd be better.

Enough of the whingeing? Oh the irony!

Sh1tbag OToole

The government are still cnuts, whinging or not whinging won't change that.

Son Of A Vidic

Ninap wrote: »

Anyone else tired of all the bellyaching of the general populace?

Go home Enda you're drunk.

hatrickpatrick

People like the OP are exactly why Ireland's getting screwed over and the people won't do anything about it. :mad:

dxhound2005

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

People like the OP are exactly why Ireland's getting screwed over and the people won't do anything about it. :mad:

What people?

Dempsey

We are barely out of a recession and mortgages, building houses, propping up the construction industry and first time buyers has maneuvered its way high up on the agenda for a lot of people and government. Not enough idiots left this country during the recession

Lando Griffin

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What people?

Us........over here.

dxhound2005

Dempsey wrote: »

We are barely out of a recession and mortgages, building houses, propping up the construction industry and first time buyers has maneuvered its way high up on the agenda for a lot of people and government. Not enough idiots left this country during the recession

You have obviously been duped by the current media nonsense. When there is nothing better to write or broadcast they make up stories about property bubbles.

Davarus Walrus

Some people are just moany fücks with an unrelentingly negative outlook on life. Personally think much of the whinging and bickering fired out here is as a result of a feeling of hopelessness.

Spring Onion

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Go home Enda you're drunk.

Yes Enda, what did you say in Davos?..."people went mad with borrowing".
It's all our fault so we need to take the private banking debt on the chin and pay it back to our EU overlords over the next 60 years.

PizzamanIRL

People must get stressed and worked up complaining about everything. Next time you're going to complain, think to yourself 'Will anything positive come from me complaining? Will the problem be fixed?'

Seriously, try it, you nag.

Dempsey

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You have obviously been duped by the current media nonsense. When there is nothing better to write or broadcast they make up stories about property bubbles.

You obviously missed the governments plans to guarantor first time buyers

Rubberchikken

Irish people only ever whinge, whether to the newspaper, or joe duffy or in the local.

We dont like the way the politicians/civil servants/bankers run this country but rather than pprotest properly about tax, water charges, garda/politician incompentence etc we whinge and nothing ever changes.
And then we whinge about that:(

dxhound2005

Dempsey wrote: »

You obviously missed the governments plans to guarantor first time buyers

I heard about it in passing but I wouldn't form a view based on soundbites and headlines. Explain it to me and why you think it is a bad thing. Up till now the media was collectively wringing it's hands because house prices were falling. Now it's all about a so called bubble

orangesoda

you need more men like martin mcguinness, a peoples person

KyussBishop

What exactly do people suggest be done about the countries problems? Should these things also be done by 'other people', rather than by pressure from the general population? (pressure which requires learning and complaining about the countries problems)

dxhound2005

KyussBishop wrote: »

What exactly do people suggest be done about the countries problems? Should these things also be done by 'other people', rather than by pressure from the general population? (pressure which requires learning and complaining about the countries problems)

Thus beginneth the lesson from the Bishop. Further sermons will follow.

Sh1tbag OToole

Rubberchikken wrote: »

Irish people only ever whinge, whether to the newspaper, or joe duffy or in the local.

We dont like the way the politicians/civil servants/bankers run this country but rather than pprotest properly about tax, water charges, garda/politician incompentence etc we whinge and nothing ever changes.
And then we whinge about that:(

As soon as anyone protests they whinge about that. Crusties, "have they nothing else to be doing", professional protesters, no job, communists, magic money tree, the socialist crowd are going so that gives me a good excuse not to show up

People seem to have a fairly high regard for authority in this country no matter how bad they are to us, probably used to it after years of putting up with the Catholic church

krafty

Hazys wrote: »

Whinging about whinging...whingception?

Meta-whinging. You're right though OP. I avoid all that stuff for the sake of my sanity. Switch off the TV shows and radio shows. You know the ones. Listen to some music or read a book.

The Backwards Man

Purple want everything.
People want to pay for fcuk all.

Whomsoever can promise the people everything for nothing shall rule the kingdom.
Here endeth the lesson.

KyussBishop

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Thus beginneth the lesson from the Bishop. Further sermons will follow.

Yea and the usual whinging from people that can't muster up an actual argument against me :pac:

dj jarvis

orangesoda wrote: »

you need more men like martin mcguinness, a peoples person

i have a distant memory of a lad not so long ago who was a people person , a socialist if i remember right , had his pint in his local , what was his name? he was grand that lad , yea , more of that i say

bleg

Roughly 60% of my wages are spent on taxes (maybe more) after you include USC, Income Tax, PRSI, BIK, VAT, Insurance levy etc..

It's ****ing nuts.

dxhound2005

bleg wrote: »

Roughly 60% of my wages are spent on taxes (maybe more) after you include USC, Income Tax, PRSI, BIK, VAT, Insurance levy etc..

It's ****ing nuts.

People with no wages are paying VAT.

Dempsey

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I heard about it in passing but I wouldn't form a view based on soundbites and headlines. Explain it to me and why you think it is a bad thing. Up till now the media was collectively wringing it's hands because house prices were falling. Now it's all about a so called bubble

How about you go look it all up for yourself instead of looking for me to spoonfeed you information?

Google does come with your isp...

Ruu

Good drying out though.

dxhound2005

Dempsey wrote: »

How about you go look it all up for yourself instead of looking for me to spoonfeed you information?

Google does come with your isp...

Just let me know whether you think it is a sensible proposal or not.

Muise...

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Purple want everything.
People want to pay for fcuk all.

Whomsoever can promise the people everything for nothing shall rule the kingdom.
Here endeth the lesson.

I only want to see you laughing in the purple rain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0mJumrlUI

Spring Onion

Ruubot2 wrote: »

Good drying out though.

Me bollix! I put a load of towels and sheets out earlier and a rogue fcuking shower has them damper than a frog's hole now! :mad:

dxhound2005

Ruubot2 wrote: »

Good drying out though.

Yes but there could be a drought if it continues like that.

The Backwards Man

Muise... wrote: »

I only want to see you laughing in the purple rain.

My new tablet autocorrects people to purple.

Fair play to it actually, power to the purple!!

KyussBishop

Dempsey wrote: »

How about you go look it all up for yourself instead of looking for me to spoonfeed you information?

Google does come with your isp...

See for dxhound, that would defeat the point of being able to engage in rhetoric first (for bolstering current authorities), and only slowly acceding to the facts later - leaving all the actual work to the person he's arguing against, since he doesn't want to miss a good opportunity to pour doubt on any facts going against his views (which requires him to be lazy about fact checking those 'undesired' facts).

Muise...

The Backwards Man wrote: »

My new tablet autocorrects people to purple.

Fair play to it actually, power to the purple!!

People haze -a simple error.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwWjx7Cw8I

Ninap

I generally ask the whingers what they are going to do to improve their own lives, and what are they going to do to improve society at large. The answers are usually slow in coming. Instead you hear 'property tax, water charges, bondholders, bankers, Fianna Fail, developers, blah blah blah...'. You can waste your whole life complaining and being miserable and feeling that everything is against you. Sure, there are lots of bad things in this country, but who among the whingers is doing anything to fix them? I actually think most politicians (and i'm not trolling) are in their job trying to improve things and make a difference. We just tend to vote in ones that aren't too bright.

dxhound2005

KyussBishop wrote: »

See for dxhound, that would defeat the point of being able to engage in rhetoric first (for bolstering current authorities), and only slowly acceding to the facts later - leaving all the actual work to the person he's arguing against, since he doesn't want to miss a good opportunity to pour doubt on any facts going against his views (which requires him to be lazy about fact checking those 'undesired' facts).

This is impenetrable as usual but at least has the benefit of being brief. Brevity does not normally befit the Bishop.

Dempsey

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just let me know whether you think it is a sensible proposal or not.

I've no interest in discussing my opinion with someone that has no interest in finding out information for himself.

fullaljackeen

Ninap wrote: »

Anyone else tired of all the bellyaching of the general populace? it gets particularly bad at election times. Every 'ordinary Joe' on the radio or tv is complaining constantly and about everything (in particular property taxes and water taxes). Get over it! Apart from the fact most Irish people want great public services, but don't want to pay for them, for these people, everything bad in their lives is someone else's fault. I'm particularly sick of people giving out about politicians; go and stand for election if you think you'd be better.

Paying for water or paying twice for water to two different bodies and no control of either.


Great stuff

Lets repeat that model over and over again.

KyussBishop

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This is impenetrable as usual but at least has the benefit of being brief. Brevity does not normally befit the Bishop.

Somethings impenetrable, but if you have difficulty Googling, fact-checking, parsing a simple statement, or reading posts longer than a couple of lines (or hell, even actually presenting an argument of your own, over sneering), it's probably not my argument that is so.

orangesoda

dj jarvis wrote: »

i have a distant memory of a lad not so long ago who was a people person , a socialist if i remember right , had his pint in his local , what was his name? he was grand that lad , yea , more of that i say

Daniel O'Donnell i think, he even used to invite the women to his house for tea

enfield

I agree with Ninap. Where does the angry man, sit? In the corner on his own. What type of person is the most popular? The enabler, the encouraging friendly soul, the one who inspires you to do better. I gave up being angry and negative as it got me no-where except to increase the ould blood pressure. One thing I found was that the more angry you are and the more you complain and bellyache about things, the more isolated you will be. You can get your point across without rage, say it once and that is enough. Anyone who wants to argue with you let them off and get angry on their own.
That is your lesson for today....Grasshopper.

yopy

Ninap wrote: »

Anyone else tired of all the bellyaching of the general populace? it gets particularly bad at election times. Every 'ordinary Joe' on the radio or tv is complaining constantly and about everything (in particular property taxes and water taxes). Get over it! Apart from the fact most Irish people want great public services, but don't want to pay for them, for these people, everything bad in their lives is someone else's fault. I'm particularly sick of people giving out about politicians; go and stand for election if you think you'd be better.

Thanks for lubing your own ar*e up and making it easier for the rest of us to get f*cked too. You clearly have too much money and need to pay more taxes while the rest of us are sick of paying 3 or 4 different taxes to pay for the same thing!

Ninap

yopy wrote: »

Thanks for lubing your own ar*e up and making it easier for the rest of us to get f*cked too. You clearly have too much money and need to pay more taxes while the rest of us are sick of paying 3 or 4 different taxes to pay for the same thing!

Moan, whine, blah - Who are you angry with? "The Government"? Are they all trying to do you down? What are you going to do about it? Whine and moan in the pub? Yeah, that'll achieve a lot.

guitarzero

It's always gas when they finish their whinging with "I'm never voting for yee again!", I literally get numb with hopelessness.