Licking rushes

mickmac1

How do ye find licking vs spraying is it as effective?? Also do any of ye use mcpa for licking?

_Brian

mickmac1 wrote: »

How do ye find licking vs spraying is it as effective?? Also do any of ye use mcpa for licking?

Gallup for licking, works out good kill for the price..

WE've had mostly great successes and only one disappointment when we tried a 1:100 solution and it was just too weak.

1:50 is a good mix, 1:80 worked well but was slow.

Conmaicne Mara

mickmac1 wrote: »

How do ye find licking vs spraying is it as effective?? Also do any of ye use mcpa for licking?

Haven't used mcpa, have used glyphosate products. But only through a very simple diy wiper, a paint roller

I find it works very well, would recommend it as a method of control any day of the week. Economical and less chance of knocking back grass.

mickmac1

_Brian wrote: »

Gallup for licking, works out good kill for the price..

WE've had mostly great successes and only one disappointment when we tried a 1:100 solution and it was just too weak.

1:50 is a good mix, 1:80 worked well but was slow.

They say mcpa kills slower but lasts longer. Do you find they grow back fast or slow after the Gallup

_Brian

No but they do grow back. Then we find each time try grow back less ad less.
That's provided the underlying problem is solved. If the ground is very wet they will prevail. On most of our ground were in control mode where regular spraying can be hard on ground.

Truthfully if we dedicated more time to it and hit them twice in the season it would be better. But being part time farmimg and a busy family life we do what we can

onyerbikepat

I have found over the years that spraying / licking early on a fine day seems to give the best results. The water evaporates away leaving a good cover of the weedkiller on the plant.

Sami23

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Haven't used mcpa, have used glyphosate products. But only through a very simple diy wiper, a paint roller

I find it works very well, would recommend it as a method of control any day of the week. Economical and less chance of knocking back grass.

What do you do, carry the roller around the field in a bucket and spot treat is it ?

dharn

I would use a strong mix of roundup /gallup with licker or mcpa with sprayer, hard to avoid scorching grass with licker, also tractor wheels will get wet eventually and burn the grass where you drive

monseiur

I find that Mortone is the best product for rushes, mix it 30 : 1 add a little washing up liquid, or diesel - it helps it stick to to rush. It's cheap at €25 approx. per gallon.
Mortone does not burn or even stunt grass growth but it's lethal for rushes.
You will get a much better kill with a sprayer, as with licking you only get the tall longer rush whereas a good spray will penetrate down to the shorter stems.
The knack is travel as slow as possible and go over it a second time, the wheels and vibration of the tractor helps it to soak down to every stem.
A 5 gallon drum of Mortone will make 150 gallons so be extra generous with it ! You may have to spot spray a few tufts here and there the following season then job done, assuming of course that drainage, soil Ph etc is in order.

M.

kake

monseiur wrote: »

I find that Mortone is the best product for rushes, mix it 30 : 1 add a little washing up liquid, or diesel - it helps it stick to to rush. It's cheap at €25 approx. per gallon.
Mortone does not burn or even stunt grass growth but it's lethal for rushes.
You will get a much better kill with a sprayer, as with licking you only get the tall longer rush whereas a good spray will penetrate down to the shorter stems.
The knack is travel as slow as possible and go over it a second time, the wheels and vibration of the tractor helps it to soak down to every stem.
A 5 gallon drum of Mortone will make 150 gallons so be extra generous with it ! You may have to spot spray a few tufts here and there the following season then job done, assuming of course that drainage, soil Ph etc is in order.

M.

I find the exact opposite - mortone stunts the hell out of growth. It also contaminates the grass for several months after spraying it - meaning that there is a taste & smell off it which means that cattle dislike it. If I am spraying I will use MCPA. We can get it here for £40 per 10 litres. It has a faster kill than mortone and grass growth is much better after it.

For licking I'd use nothing but glyphosate - after all, the idea of licking is not to touch the grass. It gets a fast and total kill on anything that it touches. I can get 20 litres of gallup or rosate for £70 and 1 litre will cover 10 acres when mixed at 50 to 1.

Conmaicne Mara

Sami23 wrote: »

What do you do, carry the roller around the field in a bucket and spot treat is it ?

Yeah pretty much, works well on flaggers too (Yellow Flag Iris).

I've some wooden dowel as a long handle for the roller, when the handle goes up past your elbow it makes the action of "rolling" the rushes much easier on the wrist. Literally if you lick your thumb and wipe it on a rush, that's as wet as you need to get the rush with the roller.

The hollow core of the roller can retain chemical, so you need to tip that out inside the bucket, then roll the roller on the inside of the bucket to roll off excess chemical. This helps eliminate dripping.

A slow deliberate action in rolling them is good to, to stop spray.

It's obviously no high technology and unsuitable for doing large amounts. But, if you've the infestation largely controlled by spraying then you can wipe out individual bunches using the bucket and roller. Be surprised how much you'd do over a few evenings late Spring and through Summer.

Do wear gloves when working with herbicides.

onyerbikepat

I wonder does having the PH of the soil right, help keep rushes away.


Had to laugh at this.
http://www.gardenguides.com/69649-grow-common-rush.html

Mad4simmental

onyerbikepat wrote: »

I wonder does having the PH of the soil right, help keep rushes away.


Had to laugh at this.
http://www.gardenguides.com/69649-grow-common-rush.html

Ha that should be illegal!

GrandSoftDay

I seen where my uncle got some of his meadows licked and used Mcpa because the grass was a bit long. Got a fine kill with it too.