Bomb in Milk Churn. Odd connection made.

AmberGold

I see one GB cycling site has made a flaky at best connection between the Bomb found in Finnstown House and the Giro.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/milk-churn-bomb-found-in-dublin-during-giro-41020/

Oddly it's not a connection I would have made.

Harrybelafonte

If you read the national press here, the Garda Síochána are the ones who made the initial connection.

Mr. Grieves

It was on the front page of the Indo - their 'source' made the connection. Shane Stokes was giving out on twitter that this is being picked up on the cycling websites because today's a rest day and some sensationalism from the Indo is undoing the good publicity for Ireland from the Giro's visit.

bcmf

Very unlikely it would be linked to the Giro. Would not make any sense given that the guy the Gardai picked up is known in 'Republican circles'.

Lumen

bcmf wrote: »

Very unlikely it would be linked to the Giro. Would not make any sense given that the guy the Gardai picked up is known in 'Republican circles'.

It's difficult to analyse the motivations of homicidal maniacs.

tayto lover

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

If you read the national press here, the Garda Síochána are the ones who made the initial connection.

Have you a link to that as i must have missed it?

Harrybelafonte

tayto lover wrote: »

Have you a link to that as i must have missed it?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/huge-bomb-found-as-giro-ditalia-party-hits-town-30265425.html

My apologies, I interpreted a "security source" to be a member of the GS, which I still think it is, but anyway:

A security source revealed that dissident Republicans may have been planning an attack, in the hope that it would be blamed on another terrorist group.

"It cannot be ruled out that it may have been intended to disrupt the Giro d'Italia race. This would be a very dramatic escalation in the activities of dissident republicans," he added.

bcmf

Lumen wrote: »

It's difficult to analyse the motivations of homicidal maniacs.

Indeed.

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/huge-bomb-found-as-giro-ditalia-party-hits-town-30265425.html

My apologies, I interpreted a "security source" to be a member of the GS, which I still think it is, but anyway:

A security source revealed that dissident Republicans may have been planning an attack, in the hope that it would be blamed on another terrorist group.

"It cannot be ruled out that it may have been intended to disrupt the Giro d'Italia race. This would be a very dramatic escalation in the activities of dissident republicans," he added.

Regardless of where it was aimed for its a really worrying turn.

Chips Lovell

I was surprised anyone thought they were connected. The provo types and the drugs gangs have been shooting eachother all year in a turf war. I reckon the most likely explanation is the bomb was intended for the escalation of the feud.

tayto lover

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/huge-bomb-found-as-giro-ditalia-party-hits-town-30265425.html

My apologies, I interpreted a "security source" to be a member of the GS, which I still think it is, but anyway:

A security source revealed that dissident Republicans may have been planning an attack, in the hope that it would be blamed on another terrorist group.

"It cannot be ruled out that it may have been intended to disrupt the Giro d'Italia race. This would be a very dramatic escalation in the activities of dissident republicans," he added.

Can't see any reason why any group would target the Giro. Doesn't make sense.
Lazy journalism i.e. "security source" my ars*.

Unknown Soldier

Everything about this makes my non existant spidey senses tingle.

wirelessdude01

I've a french lad renting a room in my house and he just told me that his mam said that it is being reported over there that the bomb was intended to be used in Dublin City Centre to disrupt the Giro.

ROK ON

The first link that I saw between the bomb and the race was on twitter from Cillian Kelly - it was this morning on his twitter feed @irishpeleton

I thought it was reactionary and ott without any shred of evidence at the time linking the events. Other than the bombers who knows in reality. I would be of the view that Vlads point above is the most plausible given the recent escalation in hostilities between criminal gangs and terrorists.

AmberGold

Shame on INM for producing guff like this, they should stick to the usual claptrap like Twink losing four stone or George Clooneys engagement ring (Front page major news on todays site).

Interestingly not noted in todays cobblers of a story is that the device was made in Belfast and ended up being discovered in Finnstown, 20K past the finish. I would think the bombers missed many easy opportunities as they drove more the less the full route and 20K on.

bob11

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/2014/it/12-05-2014/shock-giro-trovata-bomba-pronta-ad-esplodere-80640865700.shtml

Unfortunately it was the headline story in gazette earlier today ...

Wishbone Ash

tayto lover wrote: »

Can't see any reason why any group would target the Giro. Doesn't make sense..

International publicity?

Unknown Soldier

Its final destination was sellafield. Bigger bang etc. failing that it was to be abandoned as near to a primary school as possible. Standard procedure.

I'd imagine this has bog all to do with cycling and there is probably a cracking thread on AH going on.


If anyone wants to quote me in the indo tomorrow as a source from "NI" feel free

Tramps Like Us

I doubt it was destined to bomb a bike race. Probably either to blow each other up in dublin or the bomb was being moved around(maybe they made it in dublin?), probably destined to go back north given the reg of the car

ragazzo

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/huge-bomb-found-as-giro-ditalia-party-hits-town-30265425.html

My apologies, I interpreted a "security source" to be a member of the GS, which I still think it is, but anyway:

A security source revealed that dissident Republicans may have been planning an attack, in the hope that it would be blamed on another terrorist group.

"It cannot be ruled out that it may have been intended to disrupt the Giro d'Italia race. This would be a very dramatic escalation in the activities of dissident republicans," he added.

When did truth, accuracy, journalistic integrity or even fact stop any story in the indo rag?
It would be great if they reported on actual cycling events and stories but sensationalist bull****e is as good as it gets in that particular publication.
Same old same old.

c50

ragazzo wrote: »

When did truth, accuracy, journalistic integrity or even fact stop any story in the indo rag?
It would be great if they reported on actual cycling events and stories but sensationalist bull****e is as good as it gets in that particular publication.
Same old same old.

couldnt help noticing while trying to remain as unbiased as possible how sensation they made it..broadsheet my arse

No Pants

ragazzo wrote: »

It would be great if they reported on actual cycling events and stories but sensationalist bull****e is as good as it gets in that particular publication.
Same old same old.

Don't worry, in the next couple of days there'll be some opinion pieces giving out that not one rider was wearing high-vis and that they didn't stop for one set of lights on the entire island.

Billycake

Cycing Tips have an opinion piece up by Shane Stokes on this story. They also have a piece in their Rocacorba Daily section on it.
While it's good to see the record being set straight ('ish), I reckon the damage has been done by now and the non cycling public will hear no more of the correction to the story.

Link below;

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/05/opinion-newspaper-linking-car-bomb-to-giro-visit-backtracks-on-claims-but-damage-is-done/

Alias G

When it comes to the indo, its sales first, responsible and ethical journalism a very distant second. What I find surprising is that anyone could actually fall for a clearly rubbish story in the first place. Remember their reporting on liam lawlors car crash.

check_six

I understood that pseudo republican drug gangs were having a go at each other and the location it was found was coincidentally previously owned by people who accidentally allowed a plane and airfield of theirs to be used for smuggling a few years back. They were cleared of any wrong-doing at the time, if I remember correctly.

Johnny Jukebox

Thread here on cycling news;

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bomb-discovered-in-dublin-during-giro-ditalia

Amazing how many people are so uninformed yet still willing to voice an authoritative opinion.

The Irish Independent really is a bucket of sh1te.

rollingscone

Since the indo has repeatedly quoted opinions and speculation from Web forums as 'security' or 'military' sources I'd take any reporting on security matters with a pinch of 'not reading the Indo'

Zzippy

The Indo is only good for 2 things: Nico's diary, and wrapping waste food for the compost bin.

RobertFoster

Zzippy wrote: »

The Indo is only good for 2 things: Nico's diary, and wrapping waste food for the compost bin.

That's not entirely true in fairness. It can also be used to stuff and dry your cycling shoes after you get caught in the rain

pelevin

Ah come on lads, it has George Hook & that other ray of sunshine, Neil Francis, in fairness.

ThisRegard

Johnny Jukebox wrote: »

Thread here on cycling news;

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bomb-discovered-in-dublin-during-giro-ditalia

Amazing how many people are so uninformed yet still willing to voice an authoritative opinion.

The Irish Independent really is a bucket of sh1te.

The Independent’s security correspondent Tom Brady stated the direct opposite to what his colleagues Paul Williams and Brian Byrne had earlier claimed was the case.

I never bothered reading the original story, the headline was enough for me to avoid it, but why amn't I surprised to see Paul Williams associated with it.