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MSc Public Health

  • 12-05-2014 9:43am
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    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭✭ black_magic


    Hi everyone, i've applied for the MPH in UCC and UCD, just wondering if anybody else on this forum has also applied? I have only just applied last week, so it would be great to hear from anybody who is familiar with this course. :-)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭✭ studentforever


    Hi I'm finishing up the UCD MPH now. I was accepted to UCC but live in Dublin so UCD it was.

    It is an unbelievable course, I love it. I'll break it down into sections.

    Class hours - Teaching is pretty full on, 9-5/6 Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. We have different guest lecturers come in to deliver public health practice, aetiology of disease, infectious disease epidemiology and international health which can be a bit difficult if you need to email a lecturer with a question. But those giving the lectures are some of the most eminent medical professionals both in Ireland and Internationally so I can't really complain. Your timetable changes weekly which is grand for breaking monotony but make sure you bring your schedule with you!

    It's also done in 4 6 week blocks and it's actually crazy how fast it goes by.

    Subjects - Theres a couple of options but I did:
    Semester 1 - Veterinary Epidemiology, Public Health Practice, Aetiology of Disease, Health and Social Science, Research methods in Epidemiology, Overview of International Health.

    I cannot recommend vet epi enough, mainly because Pat Wall is an absolute gem of a man, has had an unbelievably distinguished career and I got an A+ in that class so I may be biased.
    Also, there's no assignments for the first 6 weeks and we had our assignment deadlines one week before exams so that was kind of tough.
    For semester 1 we had 5 exams and 3 essays.

    Semester 2 - Again, theres some choice but I did:
    Advanced Medical Sociology, Health economics, Qualitative/Quantitative Analysis, Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Health Management, Health Promotion, Genetic Epidemiology and Global Health Threats.

    For this semester, I only had 1 exam and 8 essays. The whole class found the number of essays very tedious but mainly because we're all cracking into our thesis at this stage. Difficult but doable.

    Class size - This depends on a number of factors, how many part time students you have and the classes you choose. Generally we have 20 - 25 people, 3 part timers joined our cohort in September, stayed for the first 6 weeks, and came back for block 3. If you go to UCD next year, they'll join you for block 2 and block 4. It's a strange system but it works.

    Background - The class is predominately health care professions, ranging from GP's, hospital docs, pharmacists, dentists, nurses and physios. There are some without health related degrees and content wise, once you study you'll be grand. Non medics span across nutrition, ag sci, law and journalism.

    I won't lie and say it's easy, that is one word I would never use to describe this course. It is very full on, it does require commitment and a lot of independent study to keep ahead of everything. But if this is an area you want to pursue it will be so worth it in the end. Just be aware that I have a number of commitments outside of college and went through the year completely exhausted, so if you can drop a few things, life will be a hell of a lot easier than mine was.

    If I have forgotten to include something you want to know, ask away. I can't recommend the MPH any higher, it has been a fantastic year, class is lovely, teachers are excellent. Good luck with your application. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭✭ black_magic


    Hi I'm finishing up the UCD MPH now. I was accepted to UCC but live in Dublin so UCD it was.

    It is an unbelievable course, I love it. I'll break it down into sections.

    Class hours - Teaching is pretty full on, 9-5/6 Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. We have different guest lecturers come in to deliver public health practice, aetiology of disease, infectious disease epidemiology and international health which can be a bit difficult if you need to email a lecturer with a question. But those giving the lectures are some of the most eminent medical professionals both in Ireland and Internationally so I can't really complain. Your timetable changes weekly which is grand for breaking monotony but make sure you bring your schedule with you!

    It's also done in 4 6 week blocks and it's actually crazy how fast it goes by.

    Subjects - Theres a couple of options but I did:
    Semester 1 - Veterinary Epidemiology, Public Health Practice, Aetiology of Disease, Health and Social Science, Research methods in Epidemiology, Overview of International Health.

    I cannot recommend vet epi enough, mainly because Pat Wall is an absolute gem of a man, has had an unbelievably distinguished career and I got an A+ in that class so I may be biased.
    Also, there's no assignments for the first 6 weeks and we had our assignment deadlines one week before exams so that was kind of tough.
    For semester 1 we had 5 exams and 3 essays.

    Semester 2 - Again, theres some choice but I did:
    Advanced Medical Sociology, Health economics, Qualitative/Quantitative Analysis, Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Health Management, Health Promotion, Genetic Epidemiology and Global Health Threats.

    For this semester, I only had 1 exam and 8 essays. The whole class found the number of essays very tedious but mainly because we're all cracking into our thesis at this stage. Difficult but doable.

    Class size - This depends on a number of factors, how many part time students you have and the classes you choose. Generally we have 20 - 25 people, 3 part timers joined our cohort in September, stayed for the first 6 weeks, and came back for block 3. If you go to UCD next year, they'll join you for block 2 and block 4. It's a strange system but it works.

    Background - The class is predominately health care professions, ranging from GP's, hospital docs, pharmacists, dentists, nurses and physios. There are some without health related degrees and content wise, once you study you'll be grand. Non medics span across nutrition, ag sci, law and journalism.

    I won't lie and say it's easy, that is one word I would never use to describe this course. It is very full on, it does require commitment and a lot of independent study to keep ahead of everything. But if this is an area you want to pursue it will be so worth it in the end. Just be aware that I have a number of commitments outside of college and went through the year completely exhausted, so if you can drop a few things, life will be a hell of a lot easier than mine was.

    If I have forgotten to include something you want to know, ask away. I can't recommend the MPH any higher, it has been a fantastic year, class is lovely, teachers are excellent. Good luck with your application. :)

    Thank you so much for such a thorough reply. I'm delighted to hear that you enjoyed the MPH. It sounds pretty full on..i'm guessing the year flew by?! I am swaying towards the MPH in UCC because it allows you to specialise in epidemiology, which is my main attraction of the MPH, although I know that could easily change when I study other areas of the course. Is there much epidemiology covered on the MPH in this UCD? I have just finished a science degree (Physiology major) and I'm aiming for a 2:1. I have some voluntary experience in healthcare as well as work experience in a large medical device company. Do you think I have a chance to get accepted onto the course? I would love to know about your experience of applying through to getting offered a place, as I'm very nervous that I won't get offered a place in either UCD or UCC! Also, did u have an interview? And I would love to know what your next steps are after graduation and how your getting on?
    Sorry for all the questions! :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭✭ studentforever


    It's no problem at all. It's all epidemiology, you will be sick to death of the word epidemiology! Person, place, time, mode of disease transmission, population affected, risk factors, yada yada yada.

    Some of the primary lecturers are epidemiologists in Ireland and there's massive emphasis on epidemiology in both international options, which I highly recommend. As far as I can remember, in UCC you chose between the health protection and health promotion options, whereas in UCD it's all covered. I'm in no way belittling UCC, the only reason I chose UCD is because I'm Dublin based but in retrospect it was definitely the right choice.

    Yes, the year absolutely flew in, it honestly feels like yesterday that I was writing that personal statement!

    My getting accepted was a bit of a journey... I got a 2.2 at undergrad, not health science, related due to illness and thats precisely why I wanted to pursue this course. I got rejected the first year and wasn't aware of the UCC course at that stage so I spent the year volunteering and got accepted to both the following year. If you can demonstrate an understanding of what public health means, you'll be grand.

    As far as I know, there weren't any interviews for any of my classmates, we have international students but some practice in Ireland.

    After graduation, some are going back to Canada, three have gotten specialist training jobs in medicine/dentistry, three are pursuing PhD's, one is going back to finish med school, I will (hopefully) be going to London to do another masters in Infectious Disease Epidemiology in LSHTM (unbelievably interesting class), some who did the nutrition stream are going to AlTech, and the rest I'm not too sure. Career wise, if you are focused on Epidemiology, there are a number of training positions with ECDC, WHO and some UK based schemes that slip my mind now. There is big emphasis in pursing a PhD as the PERMIT program is based in UCD.

    http://www.ucd.ie/phpps/postgraduateprogrammes/phd/permit/

    I had no clue how full on this year would be and I have honestly learned more than I ever could have imagined. You develop a way of thinking that I never knew existed. It's not quite analytical, but you are taught to examine areas that many others would ignore, it's difficult to explain but it's not a bad thing.
    I think the course attracts a unique type of person so there aren't any a$$holes in the class. Overall, other than the insane amount of research for papers, zero complaints from me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭✭ black_magic


    I just got a conditional offer from UCD..delighted! Just need to get the 2.1 now :-( ! The course sounds great, I'm really excited about the prospect of studying public health in September. I'm just not sure which one to go for if UCC offer me a place as well..I'm assuming UCD is the more well regarded university and probably MPH also, but the epidemiology stream is attracting me to Cork. Yet, UCD is all epidemiology anyway..so I don't know! I live in Galway at the mo so I will have to move either way. I'll have to sit on it for a while! Thanks for all your advice :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭✭ studentforever


    It's no problem at all. It's not really a well known course so you can pay the help forward next year if and when someone asks about it ;)

    Congratulations on the offer, you're in for an interesting year! Now, back to my Genetic Epidemiology assignment. Absolutely joy filled day ahead!

    Congrats again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Sraina11


    Hi
    Hope you are doing good.
    I wanted to join MPH in UCD.
    What are the job prospects after MPH program?
    Me being an international student,can i apply for jobs in ireland after the degree?

    Regards


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 user5million


    Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on applying for this programme. I graduated last year with a 2.1 in a Health Science degree and am currently working on a postgraduate diploma. I'm really interested in applying for the MPH in UCD next year as it sounds like the perfect course for me but am worried a lack of work experience would mean I'll get rejected. Is experience definitely necessary? What kind of volunteer work would be useful for applying? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 lola_bunny_1


    Hi!

    I've just been accepted to the MPH in UCD. I've also applied to UCC because, like black_magic, I'm attracted to the specialization in epidemiology. Since its two years on from this post I'd love to hear how both of you are getting on, what life after graduation is like and if you have any tips for a prospective MPH student! Thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 garnetgirl


    Hi all, I know this thread is pretty old, but I'm hoping someone would reply to this. I've just been invited to an interview for the MPH in UCD. Did anyone attend an interview prior to being offered and if so, what sort of questions do they ask? Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 ritalee


    which one did you choose eventually between ucc and ucd mph


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