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Wine.

  • 09-05-2014 7:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭


    Drinking a nice glass of white wine.

    Can you tell the difference between different wines other than 'thats a red/white wine'.

    Is there really that big a difference?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭ravima


    with practice, yes.

    You will find that some are dry, some are sweet and some are fruity. More importantly, you will like some and not like others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    ravima wrote: »
    with practice, yes.

    You will find that some are dry, some are sweet and some are fruity. More importantly, you will like some and not like others.

    Would it honestly make that much of a difference in a restaurant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭highly1111


    It's like asking if there's a difference between green and black chocolate and cooking chocolate!! Or between coca cola and some cheap own brand cola!

    But also, you do get to know different flavours - however, more importantly, generally the worse the wine, the worse the hangover!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    White wine is nicer because you can refrigerate it. But red is wine meant to be better for you, all in moderation ofc ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    If you mean being able to tell whether a wine has a fruity flavour or is more of a dry woody flavour or heavier in tannins etc then yes. If you mean "Waiter! I ordered a 1995 Chateau Lafitte, this is clearly a '96", then no.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    White wine is nicer because you can refrigerate it. But red is wine meant to be better for you, all in moderation ofc ;)

    Could depend on the food. Red for steak, white for fish and chicken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    White wine is nicer because you can refrigerate it. But red is wine meant to be better for you, all in moderation ofc ;)

    Could depend on the food. Red for steak, white for fish and chicken


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    ravima wrote: »
    with practice, yes.

    You will find that some are dry, some are sweet and some are fruity. More importantly, you will like some and not like others.

    Anybody can tell the difference between a wine they like and a wine they don't.

    If you take the time to figure out why you don't like a certain wine it's easier to avoid similar wines in future.

    It doesn't take much to learn the major differences and is worth the effort IMO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    Could depend on the food. Red for steak, white for fish and chicken

    True, but red wine won't quench the thirst


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    White wine is nicer because you can refrigerate it.

    You can't say white wine is nicer than red, or vice versa, it's all down to personal preference. You prefer white wine, personally I hate it and won't touch the stuff and will only drink red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    When you hear people talking about it it sounds like pretentious nonsense but my parents are mad into wine (not alcoholics) and they really enjoy trying different grape varieties and all that. Id say its like most things, if you spend the time getting into it it becomes very enjoyable. I drink it with dinner sometimes but I don't really like it.

    However at the moment the only wine I really like is Buckfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Aldi's 3.99 Baron Saint Jean Rose.
    The king of poor man's vino.

    Its fcukin aldilicious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    White wine is nicer because you can refrigerate it.

    My dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking Dom Perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That's just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Remember years ago, Gerry Ryan had a wine expert in. Went through a load of tastings, then the guy says, "I've saved the best till last".
    It was a bottle costing a couple of hundred quid.
    Opened it, poured it and Gerry quaffed it straight away.

    Ah this is absolutely fantastic, says he, just as the expert shouts, "No don't drink that, its corked".


    Think Darcy did a three wines tasting with Tom Dorley onetime.

    Dorley (being a wine expert) had something different to say about each one, only for Ray to show him the 3 glasses came from the same bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    White wine is nicer because you can refrigerate it. But red is wine meant to be better for you, all in moderation ofc ;)

    If we get a summer this year try slightly chilled red wine, especially a Rioja or Cabernet Sauvignon, with a barbecue some evening. Red wine is usually served too warm, it's actually delicious a little colder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    True, but red wine won't quench the thirst

    Who the feck drinks wine to quench their thirst??? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Who the feck drinks wine to quench their thirst??? :pac:

    Posh women :pac:


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't like either red or white. I don't like much alcohol to be honest, I don't have a taste for it and I don't like it enough to want to acquire it. Some people just have a more sensitive palate for it than others, or more discerning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Merlot for me.

    Have bought €20 bottles of wine that I have spat out. Was like drinking balsamic vinegar but yet enjoyed a €4 bottle of Merlot.

    Shiraz can be awful also, especially Austrailian ones.




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Zaph wrote: »
    You can't say white wine is nicer than red, or vice versa, it's all down to personal preference. You prefer white wine, personally I hate it and won't touch the stuff and will only drink red.

    Exactly, I would much rather an average bottle of red to a top of the range white. There are bottles of the white stuff all over the house from visitors/parties etc. but I wouldnt dream of opening one. Aldi special red on the go as we speak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Who the feck drinks wine to quench their thirst??? :pac:

    Alexander the greats army tries it once when they ran out of water in the desert

    Didn't work so well


    On the original question, yes with practice you'll be able to tell different types apart. It can be fun to have a few friends over to sample 3 or 4 different types and see how different they really are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Drinking a nice glass of white wine.

    Can you tell the difference between different wines other than 'thats a red/white wine'.

    Is there really that big a difference?

    Dont be sure about the 'thats a red/white wine'

    "This was nicely demonstrated in a mischievous 2001 experiment led by Frédéric Brochet at the University of Bordeaux. In one test, Brochet included fifty-four4 wine experts and asked them to give their impressions of what looked like two glasses of red and white wine. The wines were actually the same white wine, one of which had been tinted red with food coloring. But that didn’t stop the experts from describing the “red” wine in language typically used to describe red wines. One expert said that it was “jammy,”5 while another enjoyed its “crushed red fruit.”" None of the 54 spotted that the 'red' was really also the white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    I buy dear stuff from impoverished countries as there's less crap added. Chile does good stuff imo, with less sulphites etc.. French tends to be chemicals with some grapes added, same with spanish, and the yank stuff is great for killing stubborn weeds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,077 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    If you want an obvious "well, this is different" experience with a red, try a Pinotage. Lidl does a nice basic one for well under a tenner. It's not to everyone's taste. though.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    How about Desert wines?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    How about Desert wines?

    Like the racehorse? :)
    I'd say dessert wines would be a lot easier to differentiate, any I've tasted have had quite distinctive flavours etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Ilyana 2.0


    I don't know much about wine, except that I prefer French/Spanish/Italian reds to South American/Australian reds. I do love red wine though, just wish it didn't stain my teeth :o

    White wine is grand for nights out and casual drinks but red wine is nicer with food IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Why is it that every time I drink wine my mouth is as dry as a camels arse ?

    I actually like certain wines from the vineyards in france, but all of them make my mouth extremely dry, that's the only thing that gets in the way of me enjoying a few more glasses.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Ilyana 2.0 wrote: »
    I don't know much about wine, except that I prefer French/Spanish/Italian reds to South American/Australian reds. I do love red wine though, just wish it didn't stain my teeth :o

    White wine is grand for nights out and casual drinks but red wine is nicer with food IMO.

    That really depends on the wine itself of course. I'll usually go for red myself with a meal but if having fish I'll often try & find a nice Italian white. A large amount of the whites out there do seem to cater for the "easy drinking" market & you do seem to have to spend a bit more to get something with a bit of personality to it. That said, a really good quality white can be every bit as good with food that would be traditionally served with red. I remember being served Sancerre, a wonderful French white with steak a few years ago & being amazed at how well it complemented the flavours of the meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Why is it that every time I drink wine my mouth is as dry as a camels arse ?

    I actually like certain wines from the vineyards in france, but all of them make my mouth extremely dry, that's the only thing that gets in the way of me enjoying a few more glasses.

    That's got something to do with tannins, something like a Pinot Noir wouldn't have that effect, might be worth an exploratory glug


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Ilyana 2.0


    Custardpi wrote: »
    That really depends on the wine itself of course. I'll usually go for red myself with a meal but if having fish I'll often try & find a nice Italian white. A large amount of the whites out there do seem to cater for the "easy drinking" market & you do seem to have to spend a bit more to get something with a bit of personality to it. That said, a really good quality white can be every bit as good with food that would be traditionally served with red. I remember being served Sancerre, a wonderful French white with steak a few years ago & being amazed at how well it complemented the flavours of the meat.

    Yeah see I've never experimented with white wine really, I'm sure there are lovely ones out there but if I was going to spend more on wine it'd be on red as I just prefer it.

    That being said, an ice cold white wine on a hot day is just bliss :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    I love red and white. I go through phases of loving one more than the other.
    Can't beat a nice glass of chilled white on a summer's day and a big goblet of red in front of a roaring fire.

    I'm drinking Kooliburra Shiraz from Aldi-my current favourite, but I also love El Chucaro (red/white) from Tesco.

    Hate Chardonnay and any fruity wine. Love full-bodied reds you can't see through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Drinking a nice glass of white wine.

    Can you tell the difference between different wines other than 'thats a red/white wine'.

    Is there really that big a difference?

    Come on. The Valeyard should be drinking neat absinthe, not wine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    ravima wrote: »
    You will find that some are dry, some are sweet and some are fruity. More importantly, you will like some and not like others.

    Huh....

    Just like hookers..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭dodo mommy


    Have a couple of bottles of wine in the fridge opened since Christmas, so are they still OK to drink? or how soon after opening a bottle of wine should it be drank?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Zombie thread. Wine is turned to vinegar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    dodo mommy wrote: »
    Have a couple of bottles of wine in the fridge opened since Christmas, so are they still OK to drink? or how soon after opening a bottle of wine should it be drank?

    Taste it, you'll soon know - Oh and have a bog roll cooling in the fridge just in case ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy



    Can you tell the difference between different wines other than 'thats a red/white wine'.
    Yeah. "That's a rosé."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Aldi's 3.99 Baron Saint Jean Rose.
    The king of poor man's vino.

    Its fcukin aldilicious.


    I sodastream the Baron Saint Jean White.

    The poor man's Prosecco :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    I love red wine. Not a fan of white wine. For some reason I often get white wine as a gift. I think people assume I'd prefer white wine as I'm a women maybe?! :confused: There are three bottles of white wine in the fridge now just sitting there. I usually manage half and glass and then back into the fridge it goes.

    And yes, I can tell the difference between wines. Almost always choose Pinot Noir..but not too fussy!

    Edit: Thread from 2014?! Why do people do this..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    i thought this was about pantera's phil anselmo aw well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    dodo mommy wrote: »
    Have a couple of bottles of wine in the fridge opened since Christmas, so are they still OK to drink? or how soon after opening a bottle of wine should it be drank?

    Wine Folly has a nice pictorogram on its website:

    http://winefolly.com/tutorial/how-long-opened-wine-lasts/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I find it easier to distinguish between varieties in one country or region than the difference between varieties from different countries, especially if there are some aged ones in the mix. However OH bought some ocean's edge the other day and it's easy to distinguish rank wine from decent wine (that is first and last time he did wine shopping). Anyway I usually pair wine with food. I much prefer white with fish and can't imagine some pinot grigio or rose with steak. So no preference for red or white.

    Anyway bottle opened for a month won't kill you but it won't be nice.


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