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Single payment and Reps

  • 09-05-2014 12:49pm
    #1
    Dunedin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭


    anyone on here submit their own single payment application and whatever needs to be done with Reps.


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  • #2
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Always submit the SFP myself, last year did it on-line. But then I have no changes in area from year to year (apart from the endless "refinements" by the Dept. themselves) When REPS was going, the planner submitted it. Typically he got almost 20% of the payment for his efforts............

    A question, has anyone ever had their area farmed enlarged, or does the miracle of digital mapping ALWAYS find that you have less land than you thought?


  • #3
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Always submit the SFP myself, last year did it on-line. But then I have no changes in area from year to year (apart from the endless "refinements" by the Dept. themselves) When REPS was going, the planner submitted it. Typically he got almost 20% of the payment for his efforts............

    A question, has anyone ever had their area farmed enlarged, or does the miracle of digital mapping ALWAYS find that you have less land than you thought?

    Alwyas do the SFP myself online - but like Nekarsulm above, I never have changes...

    What submitting was there to do for REPS? I thought once there was no changes to the plan, there was nothing to be suubmitted, you just held onto the record sheets yourself?


  • #4
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Username John wrote: »

    What submitting was there to do for REPS? I thought once there was no changes to the plan, there was nothing to be suubmitted, you just held onto the record sheets yourself?

    This is where the planner makes his money. I declined his services for the last two years of the plan, and applied myself. As you say, there were no changes in circumstances/area etc. and the payment came perfectly correctly.
    He is still sending the bill for those two years. Be care-full what you agree to in the first instance!

    To a degree, they work off peoples ignorance or fear of paperwork. If you had 50 clients, that's 10 rep's payments for your work. No wonder a local lad is buying land, forestry, and building a whopper of a new house!


  • #5
    Dunedin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Username John wrote: »
    Alwyas do the SFP myself online - but like Nekarsulm above, I never have changes...

    What submitting was there to do for REPS? I thought once there was no changes to the plan, there was nothing to be suubmitted, you just held onto the record sheets yourself?


    my SFP has not changed. Reps plan has not changed either but yet I get a bill for 600e for both.


  • #6
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    Dunedin wrote: »
    my SFP has not changed. Reps plan has not changed either but yet I get a bill for 600e for both.

    Thats crazy. Would u not do it yourself


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  • #7
    Dunedin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    sea12 wrote: »
    Thats crazy. Would u not do it yourself


    will definitely be doing it myself from now on. there was a bit of a change in the consultant's office and a new guy took over hence getting landed with this.

    t'was a shock


  • #8
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I've been doing it online since 2006, I've been in and out of reps since. The changes in reps were 2 extra parcels for linnet and habitat and I converted them back to pasture when reps finished.


  • #9
    Conmaicne Mara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    A question, has anyone ever had their area farmed enlarged, or does the miracle of digital mapping ALWAYS find that you have less land than you thought?

    You could under certain circumstances, but it'd require heavy lobbying to change how the maps are done. If you have land of certain slopes you'll have more land than is mapped currently.

    Or if a farm had a lot of scrub cleared, but I suppose that'd come under the overall area and not the eligible area so maybe not relevant to the original question.

    But in general you're right, it's squeeze, squeeze, squeeze.

    The Teagasc advisor that submitted my online SFP said if they had access to the same type of detailed maps as the Dept then a lot of the mistakes done due to thick marker lines vs thin online lines wouldn't have happened.

    Same advisor also brought up the slope question with me which I thought interesting.


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