If Covney goes to justice ...

RightTurnClyde

The talk is that Coveney might go in instead of Shatter in justice. If he does...
1. Did he leave much of a legacy in Agri
2. Who should take his place

Cran

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

The talk is that Coveney might go in instead of Shatter in justice. If he does...
1. Did he leave much of a legacy in Agri
2. Who should take his place

Defo no legacy be glad to see the back of him, likes to preach to much

on the river

All talk no action. hugh expectations big disappointment.

maybe jimmy deenihan

Conmaicne Mara

Unfortunately I don't see him moving out of Ag.










(Only saying that because I really want to be proven wrong)

Greengrass1

O cuiv saying today that Covent has left 400m out of puller 2 funding. This will be interesting

Reggie.

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Unfortunately I don't see him moving out of Ag.










(Only saying that because I really want to be proven wrong)

Are you trying to pass him off on us

Conmaicne Mara

Greengrass1 wrote: »

O cuiv saying today that Covent has left 400m out of puller 2 funding. This will be interesting

Not a new claim. He has 0 interest in Pillar 2.

Reggie. wrote: »

Are you trying to pass him off on us

I'd pass him onto blind orphans if it meant getting him out of Ag.

Reggie.

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Not a new claim. He has 0 interest in Pillar 2.



I'd pass him onto blind orphans if it meant getting him out of Ag.

Very harsh

yellow50HX

can't see him moving just yet, the IFA wouldn't be too happy to see their man out, and i doubt his brother in green core would be too happy either. enda will probably be worried in case he makes a heave against him if he gets a more high profile position, convey would probably be cocky enough to try that.

enda isnt going to hand it over to labour, and he is not gong to move reilly as that would be putting someone even more arrogant and incompetent into the justice portfolio, hogan is set for a plum job in europe and nonnan will be retiring at the next election

most likely going to go to leo varadkar. he has been looking to put himself in the picture for a while ever sense he sensed that shatter was going to shoot himself in the foot. he has always been something of a opportunist politician and has been trying to cultivate an image of someone who was to opposite to shatter for a while and has been looking to up his profile for a while. has the ego to replace shatter and will probably be thinking it would be a more suitable position for his carrear and would be away from having to deal with buses and footballers

Cork boy 55

2) A Shatter

JeffKenna

I wouldn't worry, Leo is a definite for justice.

Reggie.

JeffKenna wrote: »

I wouldn't worry, Leo is a definite for justice.

Oh lord

tabby aspreme

what about Charlie Flanagan, can't see Coveney going anywhere

Conmaicne Mara

tabby aspreme wrote: »

what about Charlie Flanagan, can't see Coveney going anywhere

No thanks. Someone shot a fox and hung it on a fence one time. The bould Charlie went on a proper rant about how cruel that was. I pursed him about how was it possible to be cruel to a dead animal, he got right thick over it.

J.O. Farmer

Reggie. wrote: »

Oh lord

Is Coveney looking any more attractive with Leo the other option.

Nekarsulm

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Is Coveney looking any more attractive with Leo the other option.

No!

Leo also fancies himself as future leader of FG . This would be a good step up for him, if he can avoid the landmines.

sea12

Reggie. wrote: »

Oh lord

I think Leo is very good. Don't always agree with his policies but he is very straight up. Would not be as pally with the guards as shatter was

Reggie.

sea12 wrote: »

I think Leo is very good. Don't always agree with his policies but he is very straight up. Would not be as pally with the guards as shatter was

Try talking to the man...... very ignorant

sea12

Reggie. wrote: »

Try talking to the man...... very ignorant

Well he will be an improvement on the previous arrogant inhabitant.

Reggie.

sea12 wrote: »

Well he will be an improvement on the previous arrogant inhabitant.

That I can't argue with

JeffKenna

Reggie. wrote: »

Try talking to the man...... very ignorant

Have to disagree with you there. I talked to him on one or two occasions and found him very open and charming.

Reggie.

JeffKenna wrote: »

Have to disagree with you there. I talked to him on one or two occasions and found him very open and charming.

Well in his natural habitat I'm on about. My job brings me into close contact with them all.

milkprofit

Doyle

Nekarsulm

Reggie. wrote: »

Well in his natural habitat I'm on about. My job brings me into close contact with them all.

Reggie, going off track, do you play any 5-a-side?
Watched a match between the Prison officers and the Dail porters, who are mostly ex-army, and there wasn't much in the way of Gentlemanly conduct:D

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Reggie, going off track, do you play any 5-a-side?
Watched a match between the Prison officers and the Dail porters, who are mostly ex-army, and there wasn't much in the way of Gentlemanly conduct:D

Very little ushers are actually ex army but there would be a few ex army in the prisons. The capt of the guard which would be over all the ushers usually is an ex officer tho. Schoolboy rules tho with anything involved with the army

mf240

sea12 wrote: »

Well he will be an improvement on the previous arrogant inhabitant.

Ah it wasnt his fault he only appeared pompus and egotistical because he was getting no sleep,due to his neighbours inscessant whilste blowing late at night. He was shattered from it all.

whelan2

Frances Fitzgerald got the job and Charles flanagan moves to her job

onyerbikepat

Reggie. wrote: »

Try talking to the man...... very ignorant

Shur, what would he know about rearing calves.

Reggie.

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Shur, what would he know about rearing calves.

sea12

whelan2 wrote: »

Frances Fitzgerald got the job and Charles flanagan moves to her job

Charlie Flanagan knocking around a long time. He had the uncanny habit of supporting the loser in all the leadership heaves when he was in a good position if he had backed the winner.

Voted against kenny in the heave a few years ago aswell. Jenny musntt hold grudges. Thats 4 of the main group that heaved against him that are now ministers.
Leo vrad
Simon Covenny
Bruton and now

Flanagan.

The old saying. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Reggie.

sea12 wrote: »

Charlie Flanagan knocking around a long time. He had the uncanny habit of supporting the loser in all the leadership heaves when he was in a good position if he had backed the winner.

Voted against kenny in the heave a few years ago aswell. Jenny musntt hold grudges. Thats 4 of the main group that heaved against him that are now ministers.
Leo vrad
Simon Covenny
Bruton and now

Flanagan.

The old saying. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Keeping them sweet

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Ah it wasnt his fault he only appeared pompus and egotistical because he was getting no sleep,due to his neighbours inscessant whilste blowing late at night. He was shattered from it all.

not standing up fpr mick wallace but when i was rewatching Alan Shatter last night, he looked like a tell tale in the school yard telling tales

bogman_bass

Well let me ask people this: who has been a better minister?

He is certainly better than Yates or Walsh

bogman_bass

no takers?

RobertKK

bogman_bass wrote: »

Well let me ask people this: who has been a better minister?

He is certainly better than Yates or Walsh

Not sure any of them great.

Most of them are to the IFA, what Shatter was to the police force. Too cosy and hence big payments protected.

bogman_bass

I guess thats my point. Have we unrealistic expectations of what a minister should do?

Should he/she take the farmers side every side? Even then is it the "small family farm" or the "efficient producers" that he should support every time?

The minister has to do a lot more than keep farmers happy. We are only one cog in the Agri -industry and all have impacts on the national economy.

For the record I think he has been better than most

Suckler

bogman_bass wrote: »

Well let me ask people this: who has been a better minister?

He is certainly better than Yates or Walsh

Mary Coughlan...........:P

radharc

sea12 wrote: »

Charlie Flanagan knocking around a long time. He had the uncanny habit of supporting the loser in all the leadership heaves when he was in a good position if he had backed the winner.

Voted against kenny in the heave a few years ago aswell. Jenny musntt hold grudges. Thats 4 of the main group that heaved against him that are now ministers.
Leo vrad
Simon Covenny
Bruton and now

Flanagan.

The old saying. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

You're reading Inda wrong, he's as ruthless as any of them.

Better to bring Charlie in and give him a mickey mouse portfolio instead of promoting any of the above to the big job

Conmaicne Mara

bogman_bass wrote: »

Well let me ask people this: who has been a better minister?

He is certainly better than Yates or Walsh

In terms of my type of farming, hill farming on designated lands involving commonage. The answer is pretty much all Ag ministers since I started farming around '97 or so, have been better than Coveney.

His answer to an IFA rep when he first got into office was farmers would have to be weaned off Pillar 2 payments. He's not attended any national events concerning the above type farming, despite 14,000 farmers being engaged in it.

Even Brendan Smyth had agreed to pay the €150 h/a the EU says designated land is valued at, Coveney hacked that down to €75.

There's more too, but I'll leave it at that. I'm sure he's a great guy but for farmers like me the reshuffle can't come quick enough.