Teaching Second level

Aislingxx

Hi all,
I'm a bit stuck as iv no career guidance teacher. I want to teach ag science at 2nd level but would like to teach it with a second subject is there any way of doing this?

And also is there anyway of teaching maths if you do ordinary level at leaving cert?

Thanks in advance

rainbowtrout

You can do the Science Education degree in UL. From that you are qualified to teach Ag Science, Biology and either Chemistry or Physics. You do both Chem and Physics in first year and pick one going into second year to keep along with AgSci/Biology.

teacherhead

rainbowtrout wrote: »

You can do the Science Education degree in UL. From that you are qualified to teach Ag Science, Biology and either Chemistry or Physics. You do both Chem and Physics in first year and pick one going into second year to keep along with AgSci/Biology.

it night be worth looking at doing maths modules as an extra while there to make up any shortfall if you were interested. I'm not sure on cost but im sure it would be a cheaper route than doing them after the fact.

rainbowtrout

Normally I would agree, but I did that degree myself and it's fairly heavy going with the teacher training part included. There are only 2 maths modules in first year which is about 10 credits, so the OP would have to make up about 50 credits on top of the degree. That's a lot to take on with normal coursework.

teacherhead

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Normally I would agree, but I did that degree myself and it's fairly heavy going with the teacher training part included. There are only 2 maths modules in first year which is about 10 credits, so the OP would have to make up about 50 credits on top of the degree. That's a lot to take on with normal coursework.

don't talk about workload, i did woodwork there, 30+ hours a week before projects!

i thought there might be more maths in the earlier years in the science ed. Course esp. if doing the physics end.

rainbowtrout

teacherhead wrote: »

don't talk about workload, i did woodwork there, 30+ hours a week before projects!

i thought there might be more maths in the earlier years in the science ed. Course esp. if doing the physics end.

I did the chemistry option, but the physics people only did 1 extra maths module between 2nd-4th year. You would think there would be more. So only about 15 credits. Still a big shortfall.

Corkgirl18

Another option would be to do a 3 year Ag Science course in somewhere like WIT or AIT and then do the PME. Your second subject depends on the course but I'd expect most of them to be Agricultural Economics or Biology.

rainbowtrout

Corkgirl18 wrote: »

Another option would be to do a 3 year Ag Science course in somewhere like WIT or AIT and then do the PME. Your second subject depends on the course but I'd expect most of them to be Agricultural Economics or Biology.

Only about 30 students sit agricultural economics every year so it's not exactly a viable subject. The OP would have to check on the teaching council list of recognised degrees of any of them would qualify her to teach biology also.

Aislingxx

rainbowtrout wrote: »

You can do the Science Education degree in UL. From that you are qualified to teach Ag Science, Biology and either Chemistry or Physics. You do both Chem and Physics in first year and pick one going into second year to keep along with AgSci/Biology.

This made my day but I'm not sure if I'd be able for the chemistry and physics iv only done them at junior cert level

rainbowtrout

Aislingxx wrote: »

This made my day but I'm not sure if I'd be able for the chemistry and physics iv only done them at junior cert level

A lot of people start the course with only one LC science. The first semester you will do LC chemistry and physics to get everyone up to speed, along with biology etc. There will be plenty on the course who will find the ag science end of things tough in 2nd/3rd/4th year as they didn't do ag science and didn't come from a farm. I was one of those.

It's definitely worth considering as you will be qualified in three leaving cert subjects and have teacher training as part of the degree so you won't have to do it after the degree.

Aislingxx

rainbowtrout wrote: »

A lot of people start the course with only one LC science. The first semester you will do LC chemistry and physics to get everyone up to speed, along with biology etc. There will be plenty on the course who will find the ag science end of things tough in 2nd/3rd/4th year as they didn't do ag science and didn't come from a farm. I was one of those.

It's definitely worth considering as you will be qualified in three leaving cert subjects and have teacher training as part of the degree so you won't have to do it after the degree.

Oh no doubt I'll consider it, it's the best course that suits me.