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€100 jobseekers with one child

  • 05-05-2014 12:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17


    Hi guys
    My daughters father has been on JA for some months now. Because of his age (21) he is only entitled to 100 p/w. I have been very fair with him only insisting that he get our daughter 1 tin of SMA or 1 packet of nappies per week, However. Now that my daughter is just over 2years she is no longer on formula and she's only wearing 1 diaper when she goes to bed. Her father has really been searching for a job but nothing has come up as of yet. He has offered to give me his last 20euro that he has left over due to his only bills and keep at his parents house. I myself also live at home with my mother and younger sister. I'm in full time education on BTEA. Anyways my question to you is. Can the father of my child somehow apply for increase payment due to having 1 dependent child? Thank you all in advance :) ps we are not together just co-parenting


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    there is a state benefits forum which would be more informed

    maybe ask a mod to move this there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Kiya the most straightforward answer I can give you is that no, your boyfriend wouldn't be entitled to claim for any benefits relating to the child as he is not the child's primary carer, and therefore the child is not considered a dependant with regard to any payments your boyfriend receives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Moved from Parenting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    Hi guys
    My daughters father has been on JA for some months now. Because of his age (21) he is only entitled to 100 p/w. I have been very fair with him only insisting that he get our daughter 1 tin of SMA or 1 packet of nappies per week, However. Now that my daughter is just over 2years she is no longer on formula and she's only wearing 1 diaper when she goes to bed. Her father has really been searching for a job but nothing has come up as of yet. He has offered to give me his last 20euro that he has left over due to his only bills and keep at his parents house. I myself also live at home with my mother and younger sister. I'm in full time education on BTEA. Anyways my question to you is. Can the father of my child somehow apply for increase payment due to having 1 dependent child? Thank you all in advance :) ps we are not together just co-parenting

    Kiya I presume you are in receipt of €217 per week OPFP and €130 per month CB and have medical card? If so then you are already getting an increase for your child and he couldn't get it as well. If you are having trouble managing your finances you should go to MABS who will look at all your outgoings and work out a payment plan for you and teach you how to manage your money which will stand to you in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Kiya11


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Kiya the most straightforward answer I can give you is that no, your boyfriend wouldn't be entitled to claim for any benefits relating to the child as he is not the child's primary carer, and therefore the child is not considered a dependant with regard to any payments your boyfriend receives.

    Hi thanks for ur comment. He is not my boyfriend. Where just really good friends and co-parent well together. He is on her birth certificate also, which is why I thought the social welfare could be more understanding of his situation. In my eyes has exactly as much rights to her as myself apart from me been legal guardian because she lives with me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Kiya11


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    Kiya I presume you are in receipt of €217 per week OPFP and €130 per month CB and have medical card? If so then you are already getting an increase for your child and he couldn't get it as well. If you are having trouble managing your finances you should go to MABS who will look at all your outgoings and work out a payment plan for you and teach you how to manage your money which will stand to you in the future.

    Thanks for ur comment I am not on OPFP I'm on BTEA and also work most weekends I don't have money issues I'm quite good at managing my money and my own bills. I was just wondering what sort of entitlements the father of my child is entitled to. I am very understanding and fair with him regarding his financial difficulties. However, just because he only receives 100 p/we doesn't mean he shouldn't have to pay for his child and not no what it's like to have the full responsibly of supporting her financially, which is why is made this thread, just simply to find out if he could be or is entitled to that little bit extra because I feel like I am taking from him something which he cannot really afford every week but like I said I want him to know what it is like to support his child. I don't want to get on his case about it too much because I no that he is really trying to find decent work. Looks like il just have to wait till he gets a full time job. Fingers crossed that will be sometime soon :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    Hi thanks for ur comment. He is not my boyfriend. Where just really good friends and co-parent well together. He is on her birth certificate also, which is why I thought the social welfare could be more understanding of his situation. In my eyes has exactly as much rights to her as myself apart from me been legal guardian because she lives with me.


    Hi Kiya. While I admire you both for your mature and responsible approach to co-parenting (far too often I see the complete opposite among young parents who are not in a relationship!), this will have no bearing on the child's father's social welfare payment. The DSP won't see it any other way either unfortunately.

    mrsbyrne has made a good suggestion about paying a visit to MABS (Money Advice and Budgeting Service) in your area who would be able to better advise you both on how to manage your finances, and if you google too you'll find numerous support organisations in your area or nearby that would be able to offer you support and advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    He is not my boyfriend. Where just really good friends

    I'm confused... Is he the father or is he just on the birth cert? If he's not the father then no he's not entitled to anything.. I don't even think he's entitled to anything regardless


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    Thanks for ur comment I am not on OPFP I'm on BTEA and also work most weekends I don't have money issues I'm quite good at managing my money and my own bills. I was just wondering what sort of entitlements the father of my child is entitled to. I am very understanding and fair with him regarding his financial difficulties. However, just because he only receives 100 p/we doesn't mean he shouldn't have to pay for his child and not no what it's like to have the full responsibly of supporting her financially, which is why is made this thread, just simply to find out if he could be or is entitled to that little bit extra because I feel like I am taking from him something which he cannot really afford every week but like I said I want him to know what it is like to support his child. I don't want to get on his case about it too much because I no that he is really trying to find decent work. Looks like il just have to wait till he gets a full time job. Fingers crossed that will be sometime soon :)

    When he has nothing and you're doing fine without it.. Why are you taking it? He needs it - you don't, but you take it anyway?.. Would you not leave him off till he finds a job.. Taking his last 20 quid when you don't need it is fairly rough. Having a child isn't about your money being thrown at them, instead of that let him have her a few days a week, parenting or "co-parenting" is having time with your child, not giving the mother or father money..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Kiya11


    I'm confused... Is he the father or is he just on the birth cert? If he's not the father then no he's not entitled to anything.. I don't even think he's entitled to anything regardless

    Errmm if he's on the Birth certificate then I'm pretty sure it's obvious that he's her father


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    Errmm if he's on the Birth certificate then I'm pretty sure it's obvious that he's her father

    Well you can put whoever you want on a birth cert so emmmmm not really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Kiya11


    When he has nothing and you're doing fine without it.. Why are you taking it? He needs it - you don't, but you take it anyway?.. Would you not leave him off till he finds a job.. Taking his last 20 quid when you don't need it is fairly rough. Having a child isn't about your money being thrown at them, instead of that let him have her a few days a week, parenting or "co-parenting" is having time with your child, not giving the mother or father money..

    I havnt taking his 20 euro not once. He has offered it to me but I have felt guilty by even thinking if taking it. It's not the fact of the money it's me trying to make him no just exactly what's it is like to support ur child financially. I have been nothing but fair with him since day one. If I didn't need it I never asked nor took it from him. As for access he's spends any giving hour he wishes to spend with her. We plan atleast one day a week were the 2 of us bring her somewhere together as a family, weather it be the playground, to feed the ducks or maybe even the balls. Sometimes he comes and stays the night, baths her and puts her to bed to give me some time to study. Other than his finances everything is pretty good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Kiya11


    Well you can put whoever you want on a birth cert so emmmmm not really

    Ye If ur that kind of person! knock urself out. Wouldnt be my cup of tea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Kiya11


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    Ye If ur that kind of person! knock urself out. Wouldnt be my cup of tea

    By the way ur an annoying ass so remove urself from my thread.. The questions you are asking me are totally irrelevant and I'm worse even explaining myself to you.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Kiya11 wrote: »
    By the way ur an annoying ass so remove urself from my thread.. The questions you are asking me are totally irrelevant and I'm worse even explaining myself to you.

    Do you really expect people to continue to engage when you when you're acting so hostile? It's not "your thread", you posted a query and people can respond as they wish once it's within the rules.


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