Just ordered sky.

orchidsrpretty

I just ordered sky and the installer will be coming next week. The satellite dish is at the back of the house and the sitting room is at the front. There is no way(other than drilling through the walls) to get the cable from the dish to the sitting room. Will this be an issue for the installer? should I drill the holes now or will he do it? Or maybe he will find another way to run the cables? I don't mind the cable running through the house as I still have to put down the skirting boards etc so wouldn't be too hard to hide, but am not the best at making "little" holes in walls, they usually end up about 20 times the size they need to be, and I would have to borrow a drill. Just not sure exactly what the installer will do.
Thanks.

murpho999

You don't have to do anything.

The installer will drill all the required holes (that's why he's an installer).

They will assess your house and run through the installation with you as to what best suits your house and needs.

orchidsrpretty

Oh that's great. Thanks! Just wasn't sure if there job was just to plug in the box and leave the rest up to me.

winston_1

murpho999 wrote: »

You don't have to do anything.

The installer will drill all the required holes (that's why he's an installer).

They will assess your house and run through the installation with you as to what best suits your house and needs.

I wouldn't bank on that. Sky installers usually throw the cable over the roof. 366 or more days later it chafes on the gutter, water gets in, runs down, and ruins your out of guarantee box.

St Senan

Is there no internal cabling in the house or TV points with cable run back to the Attic so that the cables from the dish can connect to instead of drilling holes in walls.

orchidsrpretty

Will I have the option of saying I don't want it thrown over the roof? Maybe I should ring and find out. Or does it ðepend on the installer on the day?

I doubt it as the dish was just on the other side of the wall from the old sitting room, which is now a kitchen. There is a little hole in the external wall there for the satellite cable. In the new sitting room there is no aerial sockets as I don't have a aerial on the roof.

Snake

orchidsrpretty wrote: »

Will I have the option of saying I don't want it thrown over the roof? Maybe I should ring and find out. Or does it ðepend on the installer on the day?

1. Don't call the guy an installer it's an insult to his profession.. He's an engineer
2. Sky engineers will not throw your cable over the roof, that's a load of ****.
3. Don't drill any holes any where. He'll find the best place for your dish and place it as such.
4. The process will take 20 minutes or so
5. He'll do absolutely everything you just sit and drink tea or something

Hopefully your questions have been answered.. Just got sky in myself and have had it plenty of times in different houses

Infoanon

winston_1 wrote: »

I wouldn't bank on that. Sky installers usually throw the cable over the roof. 366 or more days later it chafes on the gutter, water gets in, runs down, and ruins your out of guarantee box.

Sky installer discussed the installation with me and then did exactly what I requested, most of my friends now have Sky and they had no issues with the installation.

winston_1

retrogamefan wrote: »

1. Don't call the guy an installer it's an insult to his profession.. He's an engineer

No he is not. An engineer is someone with professional quality qualifications. It is illegal in most of Europe to call somebody an engineer without the requisite qualifications.

Sky don't use engineers, they use installers.

No doubt if sky used engineers they would not throw the cable over the roof. Fact is sky don't use engineers and their installers often throw the cable over the roof.

The Cush

retrogamefan wrote: »

1. Don't call the guy an installer it's an insult to his profession.. He's an engineer

They're professional installers not engineers. They are referred to as installers in the industry, see the links to their representative associations.

http://www.cai.org.uk/
http://www.isaa.tv/

lertsnim

winston_1 wrote: »

Fact is sky don't use engineers and their installers often throw the cable over the roof.

I have never seen a Sky installation that had the cable thrown over the roof. How often is often?

St Senan

lertsnim wrote: »

I have never seen a Sky installation that had the cable thrown over the roof. How often is often?

I have seen it done many many times over the years. The Installer
"Contractor" wouldn't have PL insurance so he would say to the customer that he is not insured to climb into attics.
The Term used for contract commission installs is "Standard digital Install"

Snake

Navarre wrote: »

I have seen it done many many times over the years. The Installer
"Contractor" wouldn't have PL insurance so he would say to the customer that he is not insured to climb into attics.
The Term used for contract commission installs is "Standard digital Install"

They don't climb inside attics but never have I seen a dish setup with the cable thrown over the roof, it's always drilled inside the wall

Snake

winston_1 wrote: »

No he is not. An engineer is someone with professional quality qualifications. It is illegal in most of Europe to call somebody an engineer without the requisite qualifications.

Sky don't use engineers, they use installers.

No doubt if sky used engineers they would not throw the cable over the roof. Fact is sky don't use engineers and their installers often throw the cable over the roof.

Well I have sky installed many a time - the website calls them engineers, the phone staff call them engineers, the texts I get to confirm dates and times refer to them as engineers. Not once have I ever seen a cable thrown over a roof. They dont need to wire up in the attic, they go through the wall into the sitting room or what ever room the sky is being put in.. There's about 20 houses on my street, and almost all have sky installed, none have the cables thrown over the roof. So I'd love to see these set ups where sky engineers threw them over the roof, and I'd also like to see it was someone who worked for sky, not just someone who installed a dish themselves with their free view TV box

voenhenry

retrogamefan wrote: »

They don't climb inside attics but never have I seen a dish setup with the cable thrown over the roof, it's always drilled inside the wall

Are you having a laugh? They 'often' throw the cable over the roof if your dish is installed at the back and then drill a hole through the wall into your sitting room. That's how you know the houses that these so called sky installers have worked on. Be vigilant when next you are driving around. Mine is a perfect example.

St Senan

retrogamefan. Sky installation business is so thrown open Afaik the subbies or contact subbies get about €32-€37 per install. I Installed and serviced Sky TV from 1998 till 2008 for different companies and shops until 3 day crash course 28east trained guys started to do installs a lot cheaper than what i or any other guy could do them for. I am an Installer not an Engineer and i really dont know why Sky always use the word engineer instead of installer. And i as i said i have seen numerious houses with cables thrown over roofs and in some places i have seen cables clipped along walls that look like clothes lines.

fat-tony

Lads - your sarcasm/irony detectors are definitely not working. They are definitely not engineers;)
The sky installers definitely will throw cables over the roof and will clip cable to tops of skirting. They are under huge pressure to install as many as possible as cheaply as possible and are clocked from job to job. They certainly have the tools to drill appropriate sized holes in cement block or brick walls, but as for crawling through attics to run cables, forget it.
That said, the cables thrown over my roof by the sky installer 10 years ago are still holding up I check them every so often and and clipped them to the tiles so they don't move.

orchidsrpretty

Just to update- the installer had no issues with bringing the cable through the house. Decided against it though but told him I wasn't overly happy about having the cable going over the roof. He brought the cable around the side of the house so was happy with that.

firestarter51

the estate im in is pre wired with a junction box in the attic leading to all rooms, and two houses across from me have cables thrown over the roof

dodzy

GrayFox208 wrote: »

1. Don't call the guy an installer it's an insult to his profession.. He's an engineer
2. Sky engineers will not throw your cable over the roof, that's a load of ****.
3. Don't drill any holes any where. He'll find the best place for your dish and place it as such.
4. The process will take 20 minutes or so
5. He'll do absolutely everything you just sit and drink tea or something

Hopefully your questions have been answered.. Just got sky in myself and have had it plenty of times in different houses

1. Wrong. They are installers. And sometimes, poor installers at that.
2. Wrong. If your rear garden is south facing and your sitting room is at the front of the house as is most often the case, chances are high that you're gonna get a slung cable.
3. Wrong. He will find the most convenient place for him, obviously a position with line of site to 28E, but not necessarily the "best" place aesthetically
4. Wrong. Not a chance.
5. Correct, pretty much

1/5. Great advice there.

excollier

GrayFox208 wrote: »

Well I have sky installed many a time - the website calls them engineers, the phone staff call them engineers, the texts I get to confirm dates and times refer to them as engineers.

They are no more an engineer than I am, and I have installed hundreds of satellite dishes. And corrected more than a few of their "engineering work" errors.