ford focus diesel 1.6 2011 blown turbo

tinner777

hi,

sat big red light, engine malfunction, tried to move, no power in higher gears, turn round come home. AA visit, tell me the turbo is blown, after connecting it up to diagnostics, P0237?? Now i didn't see any smoke etc Drove home night before no problem, no problems indicated. Only when i went back out to work did light come on, no oil on driveway.

Have i any chance in getting this fixed by ford as its only 3 years old??

Full service history done by my local mechanic, all milestones covered, its done 127,000 km.

Thanks for reading.

NIMAN

Do you know what Ford Irelands warranty is on it? I think in NI anyway its 3yr/60,000 miles.

Probably best to go to your local Ford dealer and ask, think you might have a case anyway on a 2011 car.

TBi

You can try but usually the warranty states that the car must be serviced by a ford authorised mechanic for it to be valid. For all they know your local mechanic just said he did work and never changed any oil, leading to the failure. Hard case to fight...

tinner777

NIMAN wrote: »

Do you know what Ford Irelands warranty is on it? I think in NI anyway its 3yr/60,000 miles.

Probably best to go to your local Ford dealer and ask, think you might have a case anyway on a 2011 car.

2 years :mad:

tinner777

TBi wrote: »

You can try but usually the warranty states that the car must be serviced by a ford authorised mechanic for it to be valid. For all they know your local mechanic just said he did work and never changed any oil, leading to the failure. Hard case to fight...

he's a local reputable fella, with the work and parts, on all his receipts, but as you say they don't have to believe me or him,

dr.fuzzenstein

I'm afraid you'll need these guys:
http://www.turbo-tech.ie/
New turbo is insanely expensive, 2nd hand pointless, recon is the only way to go.

corkgsxr

Thats the code for the boost sensor. If it drove fine again id be surprised if its the turbo itself.

A few sensors put it to limp mode so the turbo doesnt boost. Turn off the car for 10 mins ( or until you hear the click when everything shuts down) and start it again if its noticeable better id send it into someone before replacement turbo.

Old diesel

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I'm afraid you'll need these guys:
http://www.turbo-tech.ie/
New turbo is insanely expensive, 2nd hand pointless, recon is the only way to go.

How much is "insanely expensive"

tinner777

corkgsxr wrote: »

Thats the code for the boost sensor. If it drove fine again id be surprised if its the turbo itself.

A few sensors put it to limp mode so the turbo doesnt boost. Turn off the car for 10 mins ( or until you hear the click when everything shuts down) and start it again if its noticeable better id send it into someone before replacement turbo.

it drove ok, just lacked power in higher gears, getting towed in the morning

King of Pork

Old diesel wrote: »

How much is "insanely expensive"

Could be 4k all in

Old diesel

King of Pork wrote: »

Could be 4k all in

Seriously???? - that really is insane.

rabwaygal

Old diesel wrote: »

Seriously???? - that really is insane.

I have a 05 model that this happened to. Was 1.5K for new turbo and engine recon. Cost difference probably the turbo itself. Is ita Garrett?

Old diesel

rabwaygal wrote: »

I have a 05 model that this happened to. Was 1.5K for new turbo and engine recon. Cost difference probably the turbo itself. Is ita Garrett?

Would have expected the turbo on its own to be around the 1500 euro mark tbh.

But not surprised if its gone up to 4 k on the newer models - I realise 4 k all in means brand new turbo fitted for 4 k - but even so - it makes it harder and harder to justify a modern diesel

corkgsxr

Old diesel wrote: »

Would have expected the turbo on its own to be around the 1500 euro mark tbh.

But not surprised if its gone up to 4 k on the newer models - I realise 4 k all in means brand new turbo fitted for 4 k - but even so - it makes it harder and harder to justify a modern diesel

Partly the reason I went brand new with this van. All the injectors and sonsors work. I know it'll be serviced right, and 5 year unlimited mile warranty.

Too many things to go wrong in modern diesels. And there all expensive even for just the parts

Guy:Incognito

Old diesel wrote: »

it makes it harder and harder to justify a modern diesel

No shortage of turbos in petrols. Particularly new ones

Guest0000

A common fault, oversight on these engine is the oil pipe on the turbo, and more so the small filter inside, becoming bunged up with gunk,
so it will more than likely see off another one without an engine flush and replacement of the pipes, secondhand turbo being approx 220euros. Which doesn't have to be entirely dismissed as the country is full of cars, running perfectly well on their preowned turbos, especially all the 1.6 hdi which cover a vast range of make and model on the roads today....

dr.fuzzenstein

Old diesel wrote: »

Would have expected the turbo on its own to be around the 1500 euro mark tbh.

But not surprised if its gone up to 4 k on the newer models - I realise 4 k all in means brand new turbo fitted for 4 k - but even so - it makes it harder and harder to justify a modern diesel

Yeah, but that's doing it wrong.
Take out turbo, send it away to be refurbished or even swap for recon with credit for old turbo and put it back in again. I'd be surprised if that goes north of €500.
If one can't do it themselves, get cheap indy to do it.
Going to a main dealer and saying "one new turbo, please!" is like handing your credit card over to your wife, pointing her at Harrod's and say "We won the lotto, go nuts!"

Guy:Incognito

Taking out, reconning and putting back in a turbo wont fix any underlying issue that caused it to fail or any crap that it spat out in to the system when it gave up though.

tinner777

please, please be a dodgy sensor

mullingar

A turbo not boosting may not be a faulty turbo!!!!


That engine uses a boost control solenoid to control the boost pressure of the turbo. If this solenoid is faulty you get no boost.

The solenoid is located on the back bottom of the engine about the size of a D battery with a wire and 2 small pipes coming out of it. One of these pipes connects to the underside of the turbo.

I know this as my wife's focus had the same fault. €20 for a second hand one and 10 minutes work sorted it out.

dr.fuzzenstein

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Taking out, reconning and putting back in a turbo wont fix any underlying issue that caused it to fail or any crap that it spat out in to the system when it gave up though.

Well, if the underlying issue was the turbo, it should.
Of course one should check out what caused the turbo to go bang in the first place.
In my case I know exactly why my turbo is howling like a banshee, 300k km. Any turbo would be excused for giving up the ghost then.
If the issue is crap getting into the turbo, it doesn't matter if it's recon, 2nd hand or new, it will crap out again, same for shoddy maintenance.
As for crap it spat back into the system, same thing, that has to be cleaned out, new or recon turbo is not a consideration here.

But, of course, I would always recommend to make sure the turbo actually needs a recon, otherwise it would be a waste of time.

martinr5232

Firstly its fairly simple to check your turbo just pull the top cover off if it has one, two 10mm nuts holding it on.
Then loosen the air intake pipe off the turbo see is there any excess play in the shaft or is the impellor hard to turn.

Secondly you have no chance of Ford covering that under warranty even if you had full Ford service history you would probobly only get the parts under warranty even if you got that.

They will just say they have no way of verifying service history or if the proper parts and lubricants were being used.

corkgsxr

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

No shortage of turbos in petrols. Particularly new ones

Which run much lower pressures

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Well, if the underlying issue was the turbo, it should.
Of course one should check out what caused the turbo to go bang in the first place.
In my case I know exactly why my turbo is howling like a banshee, 300k km. Any turbo would be excused for giving up the ghost then.
If the issue is crap getting into the turbo, it doesn't matter if it's recon, 2nd hand or new, it will crap out again, same for shoddy maintenance.
As for crap it spat back into the system, same thing, that has to be cleaned out, new or recon turbo is not a consideration here.


In the 1.6 oil gunk is cause of turbo failure the majority of thr time
But, of course, I would always recommend to make sure the turbo actually needs a recon, otherwise it would be a waste of time.

tinner777

2 broken sensors e120 thank god