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having discipline doing the pme

  • 04-05-2014 4:23pm
    #1
    mengele
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    is it going to get harder now to have discipline with the new pme. With the pme now you will be observing for the first month or two and then take over the class yourself. Will it be hard to maintain discipline now as the students will know your a student teacher and not experienced as such.


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  • #2
    seavill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭seavill


    mengele wrote: »
    is it going to get harder now to have discipline with the new pme. With the pme now you will be observing for the first month or two and then take over the class yourself. Will it be hard to maintain discipline now as the students will know your a student teacher and not experienced as such.

    From my experience 95% of the time it takes the kids about 5 minutes to work out that someone is a student teacher.
    It's what happens in the next 5 minutes that decides if they are going to play ball or not. That is up to the teacher.

    On the course I did 10 years ago we were encouraged to do observation, some did some didn't. I observed the teacher for a week. It made no difference. I would say that doing it for a month or so would actually be an advantage as most likely the kids will get used to you over that time. You won't just be sitting down the back for 1 month solid. Most teachers will use you and you will be involved in the classes. After a couple of weeks the kids won't give it a moments thought


  • #3
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    mengele wrote: »
    is it going to get harder now to have discipline with the new pme. With the pme now you will be observing for the first month or two and then take over the class yourself. Will it be hard to maintain discipline now as the students will know your a student teacher and not experienced as such.

    Most courses had observation periods prior to teaching before the intro of the PME.


  • #4
    Corkgirl18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    I think students know anyway and if you start discipling from the beginning of your teaching, they shouldn't treat you any different to any other teacher they have.
    I'm doing the old PDE in the coming year and we have to teach from day one but I'm only a few years older than the students I'm teaching and I look quite young so no doubt they'll cop on to it.
    If you mark out the rules the students need to follow and make sure there are consequences to their actions if they misbehave then they should respect you.(That's what I'm hoping anyway!)


  • #5
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    I'm doing the old PDE in the coming year and we have to teach from day )

    I thought this was all finished with and the PME replaced it?


  • #6
    Turquoise Lagoon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭Turquoise Lagoon


    Not necessarily, when I was in school it was obvious that they were student teachers but that didn't stop them from discipling students or being respected.
    In fact sometimes the student teachers were respected more because they followed through with punishments if there was misbehaviour. Some of the qualified teachers who had been in the school for years would let students get away with murder and had no control.


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  • #7
    Corkgirl18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    Mardy Bum wrote: »
    I thought this was all finished with and the PME replaced it?

    Nope. I'm in a 4 year course with the final year as my PDE year so we're still on the old one year system. So we arrive to school on the first day and start teaching rather than having any observation period or any of that.


  • #8
    Moody_mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Moody_mona


    Students will know you're a student. If you're observing first they'll see that, if you launch straight in they'll notice that the main teacher might stay in the room or still teaches them a couple of days. There is no point in dwelling on it, you really have to just get over it (that's not directed at anyone, nor is it meant to sound condescending, I'm not great with phrasing!) The more you think about it, the more it'll get to you. Confidence, knowing the rules, and being prepared for class, then they would care if you're a student :)


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