Do cows still need cal mag?

Deepsouthwest

Just discovered I'm out of dairy nuts, miller closed til tuesday. Do cows still need cal mag in the diet, or will I be ok until tues? Could be a costly mistake

_Skitso_

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Just discovered I'm out of dairy nuts, miller closed til tuesday. Do cows still need cal mag in the diet, or will I be ok until tues? Could be a costly mistake

Have a cow down with tetney here at the moment, so if you ask me, yes you do!

Genghis Cant

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Just discovered I'm out of dairy nuts, miller closed til tuesday. Do cows still need cal mag in the diet, or will I be ok until tues? Could be a costly mistake

A bit of hay if they'd eat it would keep them right too till tuesday.

case 956

with mild wet weather forecast i say most definetly, could you get cal mag any where and spread on paddock,

whelan2

a few buckets of hi mag either

frazzledhome

Forget hay, buckets. Guessing from your username that some neighbours would have dusting Cal mag. The only sure way to ingest, especially with a bulling cow

I'm a bit away from you to give you a few bags!!!!!

Viewtodiefor

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Just discovered I'm out of dairy nuts, miller closed til tuesday. Do cows still need cal mag in the diet, or will I be ok until tues? Could be a costly mistake

Like yourself ill be out tomorrow morning. So they will just have to do without until Tuesday . It's mild I can't see a problem arising

Deepsouthwest

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Like yourself ill be out tomorrow morning. So they will just have to do without until Tuesday . It's mild I can't see a problem arising

Thanx for all replies, got 500kgs from a neighbour yesterday morning, bit of a dose drawing that in bags from his bin and trying to get it into my bin, but glad I did it now, it's been wet here since, and particular wet this morning, so much so that cows starting to do a bit of damage again. On dusting with cal/mag really don't know of any lads near me using it, around here we keep meal to cows until the need for cal/mag drops. A few guys in my discussion group dusting, but most of my group are 20+ miles further east, v set in our ways out here!

Timmaay

Will run outa nuts this evening also. God we all must have been lazy last week ha!

whelan2

Timmaay wrote: »

Will run outa nuts this evening also. God we all must have been lazy last week ha!

i have them ordered for tomorrow, very low here too

Viewtodiefor

whelan2 wrote: »

i have them ordered for tomorrow, very low here too

All gone!

degetme

lads just looking for advice. would putting out cal mag powder plus post calver minerals in feeding troughs in parlour before every row of cows cover me instead of feeding nuts in good weather? 3kg feeding rate at moment. grass is getting plentiful and piles of silage in yard from last year.

trixi2011

Dont think you would get enough in to them as it isnt that palatable you would be better getting some flakes to add to the water and/or mag oxide to dust on grass

degetme

I have never feed cal mag any other way other than meal. iv heard of lads putting high mag buckets on feed troughs. does dusting paddocks involves fert spinner? whats the best way / time to do this

freedominacup

As a neighbour/silage contractor said to me twenty years ago looking down the farm at one of our best cows dead in a paddock from tetany "she'd have paid for a nice few tonne of meal". Always stuck with me. One of the few losses we've had over the years that always stands out in my mind.

mahoney_j

freedominacup wrote: »

As a neighbour/silage contractor said to me twenty years ago looking down the farm at one of our best cows dead in a paddock from tetany "she'd have paid for a nice few tonne of meal". Always stuck with me. One of the few losses we've had over the years that always stands out in my mind.

You'd often worry what lads currently feeding ,no meal or hulls or some other straight at the moment and no cover for tetany .meal and cal mag fed throughout grazing /milking season here .father made a very simillar comment to yours here years ago and likewise itvstuck

Alibaba

Dangerous weather for tetany.

Cows definitely need some form of prevention treatment.

Gave them all a bullet plus using the mag buckets as well.

degetme

mahoney_j wrote: »

You'd often worry what lads currently feeding ,no meal or hulls or some other straight at the moment and no cover for tetany .meal and cal mag fed throughout grazing /milking season here .father made a very simillar comment to yours here years ago and likewise itvstuck

Yes of course covering for tetany is number one priority. Haven't lost a cow here in years touch wood. I was just asking has anyone used cal mag powder and powder minerals over a kilo of meal for example and how they got on

whelan2

Alibaba wrote: »

Dangerous weather for tetany.

Cows definitely need some form of prevention treatment.

Gave them all a bullet plus using the mag buckets as well.

The bullets only last 28 days afaik

stretch film

degetme wrote: »

Yes of course covering for tetany is number one priority. Haven't lost a cow here in years touch wood. I was just asking has anyone used cal mag powder and powder minerals over a kilo of meal for example and how they got on

Waste of time because the calmag is just too unpalatable.

Have used a 1.3kg nut here with ample mg and basic mineral pack with good intakes for a number of years.

With quota gone I have fed a 2.25 nut with less to poor yielders and more to higher ones.
Can feed extra on a cold wet day.

I'll pm you the mill and name of nut

Alibaba

whelan2 wrote: »

The bullets only last 28 days afaik

Yeah 28 days. Worth doing them again though if there is a risk.

freedominacup

degetme wrote: »

Yes of course covering for tetany is number one priority. Haven't lost a cow here in years touch wood. I was just asking has anyone used cal mag powder and powder minerals over a kilo of meal for example and how they got on

I've used sweetened calmag on blend and got on fine with it. That said always get mins and calmag added to summer blend now. Usually for a three kg feed rate.