suzuki grand vitara or similar

vincentf

Hi lads. Any of you driving a suzuki g.v lwb commercial. Looking to trough the dogs into etc. Not worried bout wreking it.
I was planning on getting van but their all low to the ground for going up boreens etc.
What 4x4's are yee using. What is handy on diesel. I heard the hilux are pigs on diesel.
Vin

650gs

There all heavy on the juice its the weight mass Ive driven them all and the only one that could be classed as light is a Defender there a real bone shaker thats the prob

Jimbob79

I drove a shogun swb for years and loved it. For a full tank (60 litres) it did about 350 miles. Have changed to a caddy. Can't believe the difference. Same size tank but getting over 1000kn.

Have to say I thought long and hard but I don't miss the jeep. Have to be more carefull where I park and have a little more walking. But loving the extra €€€€ in the back pocket. Van all the way.

TriggerPL

Tdi vitera are really handy on diesel , as are discovery's , or look at the 2.2 diesel xtrail u can pick any of these up for under 2 grand .

I have a disco my self and it was Easier that the transit connect I had , diesel vitera wouldn be the most realiable machine tho , if you doing any hard driving .

German pointer

Any thoughts on the Jiminy 1.3lt go anywhere 4X4 I have one myself for hunting and find it great. Low tax and low running costs

vincentf

Jimny looks good in fairness. But...Where would i put the dog and gear and a deer. I could see myself sweatin like fcuk driving home with everything crammed in. How do you cope ?

TriggerPL

Vicent u put them on the roof rack or in a trailer haha .

Will hand it to the jimmy great 4x4 , but if ya can't travel where you want to go in a discovery then you have no business being there

German pointer

vincentf wrote: »

Jimny looks good in fairness. But...Where would i put the dog and gear and a deer. I could see myself sweatin like fcuk driving home with everything crammed in. How do you cope ?

Last day of the season 2 of us with full kit (Firearms food drink etc.) put 3 young fallow in the back a bit of a tight fit but we were grand. Just drop the seats.


Early on in the season I put this lad in back no problem

vincentf

Some squeeze id say with that big deer.lol.Do they come in diesel or are they a 1.3 petrol engine. Must look into them, could be what im looking for.

German pointer

vincentf wrote: »

Some squeeze id say with that big deer.lol.Do they come in diesel or are they a 1.3 petrol engine. Must look into them, could be what im looking for.

only petrol 1.3 as far as I'm aware

My one had 60,000 miles and is 01 Reg. paid €1750 for it only €150 more than my scope:D:D

slingshot88

vincentf wrote: »

Hi lads. Any of you driving a suzuki g.v lwb commercial. Looking to trough the dogs into etc. Not worried bout wreking it.
I was planning on getting van but their all low to the ground for going up boreens etc.
What 4x4's are yee using. What is handy on diesel. I heard the hilux are pigs on diesel.
Vin

I sold a 01 passenger grand vitara a few weeks ago, I had it for over a year with no problems at all, found it very good on diesel, 34-38 mpg which is good for a 4x4, Commercial model should have plenty of room for dogs

rugermk3

wouldn't go near vitara had one for a week when my jeep was in for a service , biggest pile of s*** ive ever drove , you wont have to worry about wrecking it , it will fall apart on its own , there not even nice to drive,

triskell

rugermk3 wrote: »

wouldn't go near vitara had one for a week when my jeep was in for a service , biggest pile of s*** ive ever drove , you wont have to worry about wrecking it , it will fall apart on its own , there not even nice to drive,

I second that, I had o6 vitara from new, I had it for 5 years, counted the days tilll i paid of the loan to get rid of the bast*rd. dpf issues (it dosent like irish diesel or our style of driving) electrical problems, air con issues, bitch on diesel (thirtyish) 4 and 5 gear to close together. might as well not have fifth gear, seats very uncomfortable (pain in lower back after long drives ) very plasticy.
only good thing about it, was it was quite capable offroad permanent 4 wheel drive
tyres are expensive odd size.
DON'T GO NEAR THEM absolute pile of ****e

slingshot88

triskell wrote: »

I second that, I had o6 vitara from new, I had it for 5 years, counted the days tilll i paid of the loan to get rid of the bast*rd. dpf issues (it dosent like irish diesel or our style of driving) electrical problems, air con issues, bitch on diesel (thirtyish) 4 and 5 gear to close together. might as well not have fifth gear, seats very uncomfortable (pain in lower back after long drives ) very plasticy.
only good thing about it, was it was quite capable offroad permanent 4 wheel drive
tyres are expensive odd size.
DON'T GO NEAR THEM absolute pile of ****e

@ heard a few horror storys about them before

hathcock

the jimny is a hairdressers jeep,anyway vinny you'd be too big for it,you'd look like postman pat in it.

650gs

Was only thinking the same, a laughing stock and blanked from any gun club or bikers gang

German pointer

Say what ye like about it, it gets me where I need to get to and as I not a member of a gun club or in a bikers gang. It doesn't really matter.

650gs

Lets not forget the knitting club

shotie

any one use the pajero junior 1.1 petrol again 4x4, fold down back seats fit dogs in it no prob , something like the jimmy and its cheap to run too .once it can do its job i wouldnt care what it looks like.mighting suit most people but i find it way better then a car for going off shooting in

cookimonster

I knew one Irish game keeper who swore by one of these, it went any where.....


Lada-Niva 4x4

Used several of these in Northern Spain last year, very tough and versatile even fording rivers.....

TriggerPL

Now seriously where he going to get a lada niva .

Mate get urself an xtrail 2.2 diesel 38-40 to the gallon , alright 4x4 system , more room or comfort then ya ever need and the ride height is perfect for a bit of foxing .

Or a disco , 35mpg and it's a Landrover

German pointer

As I said if gets you there that is all that matters

Some of us don't need big engines to compensate a lack in other departments :D

cookimonster

German pointer wrote: »

As I said if gets you there that is all that matters

Some of us don't need big engines to compensate a lack in other departments :D

The only department I'm lacking in due to my 2.5L Pathfinder is the wallet, at €1000.00 plus in car tax:mad:

vincentf

Anyone what tax and ins. would be on an xtrail. Commercials look the job. Engine not too big.
What the offroad like.

TriggerPL

Commercial tax 330 . Insurance depends on ur status , and the 4x4 is grand if it just going across a wet Feild or a muddy path I wouldn be bringing it off roading like a Landrover .

Xtrail is a nice drive tho and gud engines in the 2.2 with great road holding and power

I'm 30 and my no claims is on a van so I started a new policy with fbd on a discovery , 250€ for the year insurance .

yubabill1

Pajero Jr supposed to be light on juice, surprising when you think about its bigger brothers, but I am assured it's a hidden gem.

I drive a Terrano II converted to commercial crew cab (don't think they allow it now, think only factory conversions allowed, but could be wrong)

Terrano's known to be OK on juice. get about 160km for E20.00.

Good offroad but no difflock, so you need to put something heavy -40kg- in the back for slippery mud; makes the limited slip diff work better.

J.R.

vincentf wrote: »

Anyone what tax and ins. would be on an xtrail. Commercials look the job. Engine not too big.
What the offroad like.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/nissan/x-trail-2001/

The xtrail diesel can give trouble with turbo and clutch........two expensive fixes.......I've two friends the turbo went on and one the clutch went on...just stopped at the lights and wouldn't move.

I've a petrol x trail.....no problems...........does 34 mpg

tax on 2L petrol - passenger: €710 commercial €330

650gs

Everything gives trouble Pajero heads, Navara engine, landrover drive shafts if you service regularly you avoid these problems as for the clutch every car, van or 4x4 can suffer from this

Stevegeraghty

Love my04 3.2 pajero, loads of space,loads of power and comfortable too, I get about 32 mpg I think
When I can afford to I'll be getting a new shape one

TriggerPL

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Love my04 3.2 pajero, loads of space,loads of power and comfortable too, I get about 32 mpg I think
When I can afford to I'll be getting a new shape one

Turbos , clutches , gearboxes injectors ,


Point being every yoke give trouble these days , and the new pajeros have a guide that built into the timing belt housing that wears breaks off and wrecked the engines so keep and eye out for it when u buy a new one

Stevegeraghty

TriggerPL wrote: »

Turbos , clutches , gearboxes injectors ,


Point being every yoke give trouble these days , and the new pajeros have a guide that built into the timing belt housing that wears breaks off and wrecked the engines so keep and eye out for it when u buy a new one

That guide for the timing chain is operated by oil pressure, keep the oil fresh and serviced regularly and your laughing

Even the the mighty G Wagon can have holes poked in it!

juice1304

I went searching for something similar about two years ago. i decided on a pajero pinin it is small enough but also big enough to fit everything in and handles well on the motorway. They are a 1.8GDI with the proper super selector system in them the same as any of the larger pajeros. They also have a high and low box. You would be surprised what they can go through.
I am emigrating in a few weeks time to Germany and will be getting rid of mine i want to take it with me but the insurance would be too much the steering wheel being on the wrong side, Im actually going to buy on in left hand drive once i get there.. It is the same as the one in the pic. If you want to have a look at it before i sell it you are more than welcome. Just send me a pm

TriggerPL

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

That guide for the timing chain is operated by oil pressure, keep the oil fresh and serviced regularly and your laughing

Even the the mighty G Wagon can have holes poked in it!

This was precast onto the housing from what I remember and it just snapped off and bang engine down the drain , 07 jeep serviced buy main dealer regularly !

rugermk3

rugermk3 wrote: »

wouldn't go near vitara had one for a week when my jeep was in for a service , biggest pile of s*** ive ever drove , you wont have to worry about wrecking it , it will fall apart on its own , there not even nice to drive,

another small jeep not to touch is landrover freelander I had one , and that was the worse jeep <car> I drove, then the vitara , the freelander was 1,8 petrol and it was almost as heavy on juice as my landcruiser and it wouldn't pull u out of bed , 4*4 all the time , drive shaft going to the back fell off then the shafts in the front went , they also give head trouble , I got it in the first place because the head blow, I put a new engine into it and got a years driving out of it , the engine was the next thing to go if I had of hung on to it , wouldn't go near another landrover

TriggerPL

You can't compare Landrover , to the freelander biggest ball of **** ever made ! And I'm a big Landrover supporter .

stef22

buy a discovery 300 tdi if you can find a good one , the best car ! good on diesel and will go anywhere. They last and they look really cool.

TriggerPL

stef22 wrote: »

buy a discovery 300 tdi if you can find a good one , the best car ! good on diesel and will go anywhere. They last and they look really cool.

Give no trouble , cost about 40 euro for all the service parts . And best 4x4 system of them all . And loads of space

shoot to kill

What about a defender? Anyone have one? Or would I be as well with the link box on the mf135. Comfort wouldn't be one of there sales merits!

TriggerPL

shoot to kill wrote: »

What about a defender? Anyone have one? Or would I be as well with the link box on the mf135. Comfort wouldn't be one of there sales merits!

I've had one best yoke of them all as long as it not ur everyday yoke , not comfortable and if ya have to go away somewhere like a wedding, it not the best looking yoke in the carpark . But does what ya want it for and ur never afraid to put a dent in them,

Now like everything else when you start raising them up and bigger wheels you start to wear the propshaft and the back diff or transfer box , but keep the suspension standard with chunky tyres and ul go anywhere and have no bother. .

Saying that parts are for dirt money , so you can allow for a bit of messing about

snipe49

TriggerPL wrote: »

I've had one best yoke of them all as long as it not ur everyday yoke , not comfortable and if ya have to go away somewhere like a wedding, it not the best looking yoke in the carpark . But does what ya want it for and ur never afraid to put a dent in them,

Now like everything else when you start raising them up and bigger wheels you start to wear the propshaft and the back diff or transfer box , but keep the suspension standard with chunky tyres and ul go anywhere and have no bother. .

Saying that parts are for dirt money , so you can allow for a bit of messing about

I have a tdi 110 96, love it goes anywhere parts cheap easy to get. And i do all the work on mine and I'm no expert. I.d show up at the wedding in it. And they will always get u home.

TriggerPL

Haha I'd have no problem showing up to a wedding it's her self that I would have to listen to tho

rugermk3

TriggerPL wrote: »

You can't compare Landrover , to the freelander biggest ball of **** ever made ! And I'm a big Landrover supporter .

yeah maybe your right but same manufacture, , and I almost brought a discovery 30l v6 ,there sweet to drive and there the best looking 4*4 on the roads but the freelander troubles was always at the back of my mind , so I went for the tried and tested landcruiser ,
it does like a drink , but its never giving me any trouble or got stuck and I drive it hard ,

vincentf

Good jaziz. Me heads wreked already with this goes and that goes. I think ill give the 4*4 a miss. Thanks for the insight.maybe a van might be better or maybe not lol

TriggerPL

Stay away from 05 caddy a hahaha lol .

German pointer

Mercy Vito heap of ****e

TriggerPL

Transit or hiace. , had a hundred bhp transit and it was awesome , and easier than my connect on fuel . A lot easier .

yubabill1

10 year-old Seat Inca van 60 mpg.
VW Caddy same vintage 30 mpg.
Do the math!

Don't neglect Focus 1.6TDCI van or car - unburstable (do not buy any other engine)great ground clearance for what it is.

TriggerPL

yubabill1 wrote: »

10 year-old Seat Inca van 60 mpg.
VW Caddy same vintage 30 mpg.
Do the math!

Don't neglect Focus 1.6TDCI van or car - unburstable (do not buy any other engine)great ground clearance for what it is.

That's funny cause anyone will tell u to buy the ford 1.8tddi engine , and after having one for 5 years I agree they are bullet proof