pacifier on dd

satstheway

What the story on these gadgets.
Are they safe to use?
Do they harm or hurt the animal?
As their new in this country I'm expecting that their the work of the devil but when working on a sick or distressed animal they can't be any worse than a snaffle or kick bar and would be a lot handier than the two man tail up efforts. But I could be wrong.
375 would be a lot cheaper than a broken hand or arm in the parlour.

Rovi

Link?

Is this it?:
http://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/cattle-immobilizer-pacifier/6791703



Electro-immobilisation was made illegal here in Ireland in 2007:
S.I. No. 197/2007 — Protection of Animals Kept for Farming Purposes (Electro-Immobilisation) Regulations 2007.

To the best of my knowledge, this legislation is still in force.

Edited to add:
There's even more recent legislation:
S.I. No. 108/2014 - Animal Welfare (Electro-immobilisation) Regulations 2014

They're now even MORE illegal

whelan2

Rovi wrote: »

Electro-immobilisation was made illegal here in Ireland in 2007:
S.I. No. 197/2007 — Protection of Animals Kept for Farming Purposes (Electro-Immobilisation) Regulations 2007.

To the best of my knowledge, this legislation is still in force.

yes this ad was on before, i dont think they are illegal in the uk

Rovi

whelan2 wrote: »

yes this ad was on before, i dont think they are illegal in the uk

Section 3. (p) of The Welfare of Livestock Regulations 1990 would appear to make their use just as illegal in the UK:

3. It shall be the duty of any person who keeps any livestock on agricultural land, or who knowingly causes or permits any livestock to be so kept, to ensure that–
(p) no procedure involving electro-immobilisation is carried out on any livestock unless that procedure is duly authorised under the Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986(3).

whelan2

Rovi wrote: »

Section 3. (p) of The Welfare of Livestock Regulations 1990 would appear to make their use just as illegal in the UK:

so why does this guy advertise them and does anyone actually use them?

Rovi

The "10) We sell worldwide" bit is probably his get-out-of-jail provision.

It's pretty disingenuous of him to not state that they're illegal in Ireland though

Rovi

Actually, the legislation covers selling these things too:
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2014/en/si/0108.html

(2) A person shall not have in his or her possession or under his or her control, sell or supply any equipment made, used or adapted for a purpose prohibited under paragraph (1).

farmerjj

The ad that comes up on that done deal when playing that video is for optical express,and think its perfect I could,nt believe my eyes when I saw it.. Think the man that invented that should get that a free test on himself. What a kn**head.

Effects

I was thinking it was some kind of tazer until I saw the video. Holy god.

Deepsouthwest

Effects wrote: »

I was thinking it was some kind of tazer until I saw the video. Holy god.

Is it really that bad? Looks like a better option than tying up a heifer after she's kicked seven shades of **** out of everything around her in the parlour, bruising/herself anyway. The animal looks pretty content after leaving the crush, although these videos are well edited. I couldn't imagine a heifer releasing oxytocin/letting down the milk that inserted though

Gillespy

Vet used one here years ago to cut the horns off a cow we bought at a neighbours dispersal sale. I got to say it worked brilliantly. It was banned soon after much to his annoyance.

farmerjj

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Is it really that bad? Looks like a better option than tying up a heifer after she's kicked seven shades of **** out of everything around her in the parlour, bruising/herself anyway. The animal looks pretty content after leaving the crush, although these videos are well edited. I couldn't imagine a heifer releasing oxytocin/letting down the milk that inserted though

I think a kickbar would be less of a cruel way of doing it, a kickbar always works for me and its painless for me and the animal.

munkus

farmerjj wrote: »

I think a kickbar would be less of a cruel way of doing it, a kickbar always works for me and its painless for me and the animal.

Not much help for castrating bulls though, would be brilliant for that job. Amazing how it is legal in Europe and illegal here. God bless our moral high ground.

farmerjj

munkus wrote: »

Not much help for castrating bulls though, would be brilliant for that job. Amazing how it is legal in Europe and illegal here. God bless our moral high ground.

True but if I was castrating a bull i think u,d probably still be safer holding back the bulls tail.Would not trust that thing to stop a kick coming my way