Im male cleaner,why women treat me worse?

hurghada

Im 30 im male cleaner.i clean houses,flats i do gardening etc...but usually females treat me worse...do i have bad luck?why is like that?not 100% females treat me like that but most of them...reason is im male?or maybe that im not irish?

Mrs OBumble

Are you talking about people who you clean for treating you badly?

Or once you you are interested in being friends / involved with?

hurghada

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Are you talking about people who you clean for treating you badly?

Or once you you are interested in being friends / involved with?

yes i talking about people(most females)who hire me.

Mr. Loverman

The only constant in all the meetings you have with women is you.

You are doing something which upsets them.

Ask a female friend for advice.

hurghada

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

The only constant in all the meetings you have with women is you.

You are doing something which upsets them.

Ask a female friend for advice.

i never upset women who hire me,i do whatever they want, im nice,punktual.Ido my job the best how i can all women who hire me are happy.only thing is they treat me worse when i clean for them in their houses and they are in house as well.sometimes i feel like not human.

Maphisto

hurghada wrote: »

i never upset women who hire me,i do whatever they want, im nice,punktual.Ido my job the best how i can all women who hire me are happy.only thing is they treat me worse when i clean for them in their houses and they are in house as well.sometimes i feel like not human.

In what ways are these women treating you badly

You need to explain

hurghada

Maphisto wrote: »

In what ways are these women treating you badly

You need to explain

for example...when i clean living room i had to clean some dusts on knees under the sofa and woman lie on this sofa an watched tv and the same moment....or in difrent place i clean legs of the table in kitchen woman step by shoes on my fingers and watched how i did it....its only few examples.

Maphisto

hurghada wrote: »

for example...when i clean living room i had to clean some dusts on knees under the sofa and woman lie on this sofa an watched tv and the same moment....or in difrent place i clean legs of the table in kitchen woman step by shoes on my fingers and watched how i did it....its only few examples.

Well that didn't make total sense. Its a windup right? Because at one stage you seem to suggest that she stood on your fingers - I have visions of The Night Porter, was she wearing any sort of uniform?

If that is the case that is assault - in any case that is one example not a few.

Stheno

So you've had two instances of being hurt/inconvenienced by a woman you were cleaning for where

1. As you were dusting the legs of a table, a woman stood on your hand.
2. As you were dusting under the sofa a woman sat on the sofa to watch tv.

The first could have been accidental, the second sounds downright ignorant.

Is this the same woman in both instances?

December2012

Some people are ignorant to cleaners - they probably would have done the same if you were female. Could the stepping on the finger thing just have been an accident?

hurghada

Stheno wrote: »

So you've had two instances of being hurt/inconvenienced by a woman you were cleaning for where

1. As you were dusting the legs of a table, a woman stood on your hand.
2. As you were dusting under the sofa a woman sat on the sofa to watch tv.

The first could have been accidental, the second sounds downright ignorant.

Is this the same woman in both instances?

not the same woman...2 i dust under the sofa on knees and woman the same moment sat on sofa i was " at her feet" i mean she didnt stand up, she didnt move she stayed at this positions.....she still sat....1 example...maybe was accident she stood on my hand but she stand and watching and before she left room she show tip of her shoes where i should clean better ...

hurghada

December2012 wrote: »

Some people are ignorant to cleaners - they probably would have done the same if you were female. Could the stepping on the finger thing just have been an accident?

yes wad accident....my friends females when clean them houses dont have any problems...me as im man, i have many examples which i can write here ...which r litlle bit humiliated to me....i hope not every women are like those women

Maphisto

hurghada wrote: »

not the same woman...2 i dust under the sofa on knees and woman the same moment sat on sofa i was " at her feet" i mean she didnt stand up, she didnt move she stayed at this positions.....she still sat....1 example...maybe was accident she stood on my hand but she stand and watching and before she left room she show tip of her shoes where i should clean better ...

Well I still think youre having a bit of fun here but so what, she is ignorant. A women pushed in front of me at Tescos today - bucking fitch - and she had loads in her trolley and I only had 4 things - so what?

cloudatlas

I think you're unlucky. Are you contracted out? Can you tell your employer you'd like to clean a different clients house as the lady is very rude. If someone steps on your hand you should tell them not to do it again :eek:, that's out of line.

hurghada

cloudatlas wrote: »

I think you're unlucky. Are you contracted out? Can you tell your employer you'd like to clean a different clients house as the lady is very rude. If someone steps on your hand you should tell them not to do it again :eek:, that's out of line.

yeah litle bit unlucky,i tell employer about but she said that was accident and i shouldnt complain coz wasnt that situation so bad.not only that woman treatede me bad some others as well.

cloudatlas

hurghada wrote: »

yeah litle bit unlucky,i tell employer about but she said that was accident and i shouldnt complain coz wasnt that situation so bad.not only that woman treatede me bad some others as well.

Well if your employer isn't going to help you then you should look for a new job. I hope things get better for you.

tralalala

Hey, have you thought about that: these women are maybe playing flirting or enjoying a little powertrip with you. Try to smile it and see how it goes. By the way maybe you are from a nationality that has a negative stereotype or not loved a lot but if you got a smile and a good attitude you will win the heart of any person. Maybe you think that you are not respected and have as a result a stressed out attitude that can be felt in the room. what's your nationality?

olliesgirl55

I think cleaning staff do not get the respect they duly deserve in most cases. Op I think you are experiencing what many female cleaners have experienced for years. It has nothing to do with gender but everything to do with occupation and a class thing maybe.

The_Conductor

Its actually not unusual.
Many professions where one gender is considered dominant- often experience aggression and bullying to remarkable levels, against the minority gender in the profession. We hear all about women being bullied in the workplace- but the flipside of this- is men who are civil servants, primary school teachers, nurses, secretarial or administrative staff- experience almost identical aggression and bullying where in a similar situation a woman is normally ignored by her employer, client or customer.

Statistics on bullying compiled by unions, strongly supports this.

Its wrong- plain and simple- it doesn't matter what your job is- you deserve to be treated with dignity at work- its unusual for men to complain though, as more often than not they're treated with ridicule.

OP- I genuinely feel for you- all you can really do is continue to do your job to the best of your ability, in as dignified a manner as possible. If there are any incidents- make sure you report them and keep a record of them- and if you notice a trend- try to avoid the situations that lend themselves to that event (e.g. if particular customers are consistently causing you trouble- try to swap with colleagues for other customers- and make your supervisor aware of the situation).

Its hard- esp. in the current employment market- any job, is a job, and pays the bills- you shouldn't have to put up with an abusive work environment though- regardless of who you are, or what you do.

padma

I agree with the conductor..i work in an office doing security and some cleaning duties...a woman who was part of facilities was bullying us for the past year..insulting our work continuously passing remarks about us being men and not as good as women...constant picking and insulting hanging over your work waiting for you to miss a tea stain on a desk then sending insulting emails to our boss..

.our boss was aware but as we are contracted staff we just held back giving her a punch in the face..one day she particularly went psycho on me and recorded her insults in the communications book between us and the client ie her..this opened up for us to lodge a complaint with evidence.

Problem was when our boss produced the evidence to her superiors (who are all women) they decided to protect her. Our boss reckons it may be because the culture of that facilities department there is years of bullying towards security and cleaning staff and now we are walking around on eggshells in the workplace.

Only good thing of her insults is she is now kept away from dealing with us and has been reassigned different duties. A combination of being distasteful and disrespectful towards us went on for too long but in the end we will never get the respect from this client..a large financial multinational.

Beargrylls01

Listen it can be demoralizing sometimes if people are being dumbasses, but everyone has to work for a living and even if some of them don't show you enough respect, at least be aware that everyone else respects you for making a living for yourself.

hurghada

Beargrylls01 wrote: »

Listen it can be demoralizing sometimes if people are being dumbasses, but everyone has to work for a living and even if some of them don't show you enough respect, at least be aware that everyone else respects you for making a living for yourself.

i understand that people have to work for living but thse axample like
i was dusting the legs of a table, a woman stood on your hand or
i was dusting under the sofa a woman sat on the sofa to watch tv and my head was beside her feet!!ohh life is difficult.