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Incident closes East Midlands Airport

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Emergancy Response Plan activated.
    Crisis Control Team (CCT) has been convened.
    3 investigations.
    Thousands of passengers affected since the incident.


    The whole thing seems to be a complete over reaction to an apparent landing gear failure on a cargo plane.

    "The left-hand landing gear of the aircraft suffered a failure after the aircraft had successfully landed and whilst slowing for taxi off the runway.

    "The runway remains closed whilst technical examinations take place, but the aircraft will be removed as soon as possible."
    Air Contractors.

    Nearly 8 hours later the airport is still closed. This is ridiculous. Why don't they just tow the ffn think off the runway and and investigate it there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭billie1b


    Couple of pictures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Lapin wrote: »
    Why don't they just tow the ffn think off the runway and and investigate it there?

    Towing it off will yield more damage to the A/C and may give inconclusive evidence to what may have gone wrong, Air Contractors are working both the AAIU and the AAIB.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭galwayjohn89


    Would the Emergancy Response Plan and Crisis Control Team etc cover things such as alternative airports for flights and getting passengers to Manchester airport etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Xpro


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    Why are the AAIU involved?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭galwayjohn89


    Irish Aircraft/Operator


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭dm09


    EI-STD

    Registration FAIL :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭arubex


    EGNX NOTAM:

    RWY 09/27 CLOSED
    FROM: 29 APR 2014 02:53
    TO: 29 APR 2014 18:00 EST

    Ridiculous!

    Jack it up on recovery cushions and move it out of the way.

    On the air bases in South Vietnam during the dispute in that part of the World, un-cooperative aircraft were forcibly removed from taxiways and runways using bulldozers. Just saying :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    arubex wrote: »
    EGNX NOTAM:

    RWY 09/27 CLOSED
    FROM: 29 APR 2014 02:53
    TO: 29 APR 2014 18:00 EST

    Ridiculous!

    Jack it up on recovery cushions and move it out of the way.

    On the air bases in South Vietnam during the dispute in that part of the World, un-cooperative aircraft were forcibly removed from taxiways and runways using bulldozers. Just saying :)

    Personally id rather know when the aircraft is returned to service that the full conditions on what happened were clear. As i have been around this aircraft for sometime.

    Plus there could be more to not moving it than meets the eye as too aviation safety authorities are involved.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Suasdaguna1


    Is that the aircraft delivered ex MIA recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    Does anyone else find it strange how the media / general public don't get worked up about this because its a cargo plane, but if it was Ryanair, it would be major headline news!

    Also more interesting because Air Contractors provide many flights to the Irish public namely the 3 757s for EI and charters to the Canaries during the summer. My parents had EI-STA last summer to Lanzorote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    They'll be flying 737-400's ex DUB for Ryanair in the summer bikeman. Imagine the media got wind of that :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Look's like the left main gear completely sheered off after the aircraft had gone to idle reverse thrust and manual braking, considering EI-STD had just gone under an A check last Saturday/Sunday and it's last D Check was in Feb 2013 seems to have been a sudden issue which caused this.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,203 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    Does anyone else find it strange how the media / general public don't get worked up about this because its a cargo plane, but if it was Ryanair, it would be major headline news!

    Also more interesting because Air Contractors provide many flights to the Irish public namely the 3 757s for EI and charters to the Canaries during the summer. My parents had EI-STA last summer to Lanzorote.


    Strangely cargo ops and indeed incidents never really resonate with the media and or general public so much. Unless you can guarantee 300 people screaming in terror and smoke everywhere its just a bit of a non story it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭tennis12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    Does anyone else find it strange how the media / general public don't get worked up about this because its a cargo plane, but if it was Ryanair, it would be major headline news!

    I saw one of their aircraft in the background; knew they'd be to blame somehow ;)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    tennis12 wrote: »

    Bloody hell.....my flickr account has better A380 photo's than that.


    And EMA obviously gets the A380 in a few times a day....;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Skuxx


    Just out of interest does anyone know where EI-STD is based?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Skuxx wrote: »
    Just out of interest does anyone know where EI-STD is based?

    Paris-Charles de Gaulle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Paris-Charles de Gaulle

    How'd you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    How'd you know?

    ASL operate a hub at CDG, also a quick search for EI-STD shows all of its flights are to/from CDG in recent weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Have to say fair play to Air Contractors for this press-release.
    Air Contractors can confirm an incident involving one of its cargo aircraft at East Midlands Airport in the United Kingdom.

    The aircraft involved was a Boeing 737-400 Freighter. There were two flight crew on board and there were no injuries. The flight crew were the only occupants of the aircraft.

    It is understood that the aircraft landed normally and there were no adverse weather conditions. Part of the landing gear on the left hand side of the aircraft appears to have failed after the aircraft had slowed down to exit the runway.

    The aircraft is on the runway and the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU) and the UK Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) have been informed.

    Air Contractors flight BCS 1748 was operating from Paris Charles de Gaulle to East Midlands Airport with 10 tonnes of cargo on board. The cargo capacity of the 737-400 Freighter is 17 tonnes.

    The two flight crew were highly experienced; the 39 year old Captain from the Netherlands has 4,500 flight hours and the 38 year old Irish First Officer has 3,900 flight hours.

    The aircraft, registration EI-STD, MSN 24433, was manufactured in 1990. It had a maintenance ‘A’ check in the last weekend, April 26 and 27 2014. The aircraft underwent its last scheduled heavy maintenance check in February 2013 and its next heavy maintenance check is due in early 2015.

    The Airline’s Emergency Response plan has been activated and the Crisis Control Team (CCT) has been convened. The CCT are currently investigating the facts related to this incident and are liaising with all relevant authorities.

    Air Contractors is sorry to see the inconvenience caused to passengers travelling to and from East Midlands Airport this morning whose travel plans have been disrupted due to this incident. We hope that normal airport operations can resume in a timely manner.

    Further information will be released as it becomes available.

    http://www.aircontractors.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    Strumms wrote: »
    Strangely cargo ops and indeed incidents never really resonate with the media and or general public so much. Unless you can guarantee 300 people screaming in terror and smoke everywhere its just a bit of a non story it seems.

    Also most people think that a cargo plane is an old smelly thing with only two pilots on board,I used to get asked if pilots flying pax had a higher licence than flying a cargo plane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,203 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Also most people think that a cargo plane is an old smelly thing with only two pilots on board,I used to get asked if pilots flying pax had a higher licence than flying a cargo plane.

    It can be an old smelly thing with two pilots on board depending on the airline... It is most certainly an old smelly thing If you stick your head into the cargo compartment after the arrival of a live animal charter !

    The likes of UPS and FedEx in particular have what can only be described as the amongst the top contracts and conditions in the whole airline industry period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭arubex


    East Midlands re-opened for departures around 19:00 and arrivals were accepted from 23:30.

    SRR7832 and EXS624 are worth checking-out on FR24, very different patterns in the hold ( FR24 playback around 21:40 UTC ). I would have thought it would be cheaper to return to their origins and try again later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭calibratedtool


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Paris-Charles de Gaulle

    The aircraft isn't based in CDG but rather just operates through there for DHL.

    As it's used on their network the day-stops can vary so it's only 'real' base is SNN.

    ASL doesn't have a hub in CDG but ACL operate a lot of flights through there for FedEx on an nightly basis using their hub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    The aircraft isn't based in CDG but rather just operates through there for DHL.

    As it's used on their network the day-stops can vary so it's only 'real' base is SNN.

    ASL doesn't have a hub in CDG but ACL operate a lot of flights through there for FedEx on an nightly basis using their hub.

    Surprised to hear that, I knew the ATR that goes through ORK late evening/early morning is SNN crew - But EI-STD is a stationed CDG aircraft right? have to say I didn't know the crew would be SNN based for that aircraft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭calibratedtool


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Surprised to hear that, I knew the ATR that goes through ORK late evening/early morning is SNN crew - But EI-STD is a stationed CDG aircraft right? have to say I didn't know the crew would be SNN based for that aircraft.

    It's not CDG based and the crew aren't SNN based.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,280 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    It's not CDG based and the crew aren't SNN based.



    Rather than saying what it isn't would it not be more constructive and helpful to explain what the set up actually is?

    We're not all experts who know everything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog




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