Recommend condenser dryer

sprongBik

Am looking to replace an existing condenser tumble dryer

I bought it at the end of last year
It is a sensor dryer, with heat pump and all mod cons, but it takes over 3 hours to dry the clothes and even then they are not all dry
Have had tech out to check it and a replacement unit. So now i have a credit note from company

Our typical loads are about 5-7 kilos wet from the washing machine

Due to space it needs to be a condenser
My main concern is that when the load comes out of the dryer all clothes are fully dry
Next is drying time, we sometimes use the dryer 3 times a day and it needs to dry quite quickly, ideal would be two hours
Important also is noise, this will be in the kitchen and ours is kind of open plan so it cant be too noisy

To me these things dont seem unreasonable qualities of a clothes dryer? maybe i am looking for too much...

Its really hard to know how these things actually perform - based on the last experience i dont know how to select

If there are any ideas it would be great, thanks

The Red Ace

if you are drying c 20kg of clothes daily you are doing the work of a small laundry, first thing you need to do when buying is buy a matching size dryer for your washer as the problem re the clothes coming out still damp is likely to be overfilling the dryer, clothes need space to expand when drying. if you buy another domestic condenser dryer you need to keep the filter and condenser thoroughly clean. For that type of work load the ideal appliance is c20 lb vented gas dryer, most of the domestic dryers available will not last jig time with your work load, an 8kg from Siemens or Miele retail between 900 and 1050E in elec, whereas a Hoover is less than 300E so thats why cheaper units cant last the pace

byte

Condenser dryers generally seem to be slower than vented dryers, in my experience.

Presumably, this is because any steam that goes through the condensing unit that doesn't condense, goes back through the cycle. Whereas a vented dryer just pushes all steam one way out through the vent pipe.

The last condenser dryer I had, it took around 2 hours to dry a load of clothes (my vent dryer is about 20-30mins quicker).

Of course, some situations don't allow for the convenience of a vented dryer.

sprongBik

The Red Ace wrote: »

if you are drying c 20kg of clothes daily you are doing the work of a small laundry, first thing you need to do when buying is buy a matching size dryer for your washer as the problem re the clothes coming out still damp is likely to be overfilling the dryer, clothes need space to expand when drying. if you buy another domestic condenser dryer you need to keep the filter and condenser thoroughly clean. For that type of work load the ideal appliance is c20 lb vented gas dryer, most of the domestic dryers available will not last jig time with your work load, an 8kg from Siemens or Miele retail between 900 and 1050E in elec, whereas a Hoover is less than 300E so thats why cheaper units cant last the pace

it feels a bit like a laundry at times alright

My washer is 7 kg so i bought a 9kg dryer as i thought, like you say, it would give the clothes more room to dry. and it wasn't cheap, €730

The dryer we had before this one was about 10 years old and it had a dial for time and a power button. You put in the time and pressed on and at the end of that time the clothes came out dry - it was a condenser too

Now, we have heat pumps and sensors and i just don't think that it works. Now, it could just be that the dryer i have doesn't work and i am tarring them all with the same brush. But i don't want to buy another new dryer and end up with the same problems

Is it possible to buy a new dryer that uses a sensor, that will dry the clothes

sprongBik

byte wrote: »

Condenser dryers generally seem to be slower than vented dryers, in my experience.

Presumably, this is because any steam that goes through the condensing unit that doesn't condense, goes back through the cycle. Whereas a vented dryer just pushes all steam one way out through the vent pipe.

The last condenser dryer I had, it took around 2 hours to dry a load of clothes (my vent dryer is about 20-30mins quicker).

Of course, some situations don't allow for the convenience of a vented dryer.

Thanks, i didn't realise condensers are usually slower than vented, but i wouldn't mind 2 hours at this stage - this yoke is taking 3 hours per load

Our dryer is in the middle of the house so it can't be vented

Roebourne9

I bought a condensor sensor dryer a few months ago to replace a condensor and I'm finding the clothes are not dry either, its mainly the socks and underwear so the load is well below capacity, im sick of switching it back on to dry and still they come out damp. I've had the tech out and he said to put a t - towel in with them and that should fix it, but still the same, the t-towels are dryer than the socks, even when I turn it on the time it says it will take to dry is below the max time of that setting and yet if i add up all the times after turning it back on sometimes 3 times, its higher than the max time for 1 cycle. i Tried all the different settings and still the same result. Going to ring the tech again and see what they will do but im reluctant to go with a sensor again and it wasn't cheap either.

robertxxx

sprongBik wrote: »

it feels a bit like a laundry at times alright

My washer is 7 kg so i bought a 9kg dryer as i thought, like you say, it would give the clothes more room to dry. and it wasn't cheap, €730

The dryer we had before this one was about 10 years old and it had a dial for time and a power button. You put in the time and pressed on and at the end of that time the clothes came out dry - it was a condenser too

Now, we have heat pumps and sensors and i just don't think that it works. Now, it could just be that the dryer i have doesn't work and i am tarring them all with the same brush. But i don't want to buy another new dryer and end up with the same problems

Is it possible to buy a new dryer that uses a sensor, that will dry the clothes

Is it a bosch? I hope not as I'm looking to buy one to match my washing machine and the one I'm looking at is around that price.

sprongBik

Roebourne9 wrote: »

I bought a condensor sensor dryer a few months ago to replace a condensor and I'm finding the clothes are not dry either, its mainly the socks and underwear so the load is well below capacity, im sick of switching it back on to dry and still they come out damp. I've had the tech out and he said to put a t - towel in with them and that should fix it, but still the same, the t-towels are dryer than the socks, even when I turn it on the time it says it will take to dry is below the max time of that setting and yet if i add up all the times after turning it back on sometimes 3 times, its higher than the max time for 1 cycle. i Tried all the different settings and still the same result. Going to ring the tech again and see what they will do but im reluctant to go with a sensor again and it wasn't cheap either.

I know what you mean. I've been running the dryer again and again for the same load.

It doesnt make sense to have to add t towels in to get other clothes dry, the dryer should just be able to dry whatever is in the drum - is that unreasonable to think?

I was not filling up the dryer as i thought that less clothes would give more space to dry. Just to test it i filled the dryer with about 8.5kg of wet clothes. it ran for just short of 6 hours and the clothes still came out damp

The dryer i bought is a++ rated. It seems to me that the 'better' the rating the longer the drying time. I think this energy efficiency is a bit of a cod: i believe that they use a lower drying temp to save energy but it doesn't seem to work. Also the dryer has a heat pump and i have my doubts about it

after all of this i am going to buy a b rated dryer, and if possible one that has a timer function and just whack it on for a set time until the clothes are properly dry

sprongBik

robertxxx wrote: »

Is it a bosch? I hope not as I'm looking to buy one to match my washing machine and the one I'm looking at is around that price.

No it is an electrolux EDH3498RDL

I was thinking of replacing it with a bosch, cos bosch have a good reputation but if all they offer are sensor dryers (or with heat pump) then i think i will pass

Its really hard to know but at least on the bosch site they give good spec info that also includes drying time (most of them list about 200 mins for cupboard dry for the sensor models )

Roebourne9

sprongBik wrote: »

I know what you mean. I've been running the dryer again and again for the same load.

It doesnt make sense to have to add t towels in to get other clothes dry, the dryer should just be able to dry whatever is in the drum - is that unreasonable to think?

I was not filling up the dryer as i thought that less clothes would give more space to dry. Just to test it i filled the dryer with about 8.5kg of wet clothes. it ran for just short of 6 hours and the clothes still came out damp

The dryer i bought is a++ rated. It seems to me that the 'better' the rating the longer the drying time. I think this energy efficiency is a bit of a cod: i believe that they use a lower drying temp to save energy but it doesn't seem to work. Also the dryer has a heat pump and i have my doubts about it

after all of this i am going to buy a b rated dryer, and if possible one that has a timer function and just whack it on for a set time until the clothes are properly dry

Mine is b rated, no heat pump though, I did think that it wasn't as hot as my last dryer, I've written to the consumer association to get advice on what my options are, but as far as I'm concerned it's not doing what it's supposed to. I have a timer function on mine too but salesman said once I use that it drops the dryers rating, i Tried it out of desperation the other night to see and I dont know if I just didn't put it on for long enough, 30 mins to dry a few socks and underwear, but I can't say that they were bone dry.

sprongBik

Roebourne9 wrote: »

Mine is b rated, no heat pump though, I did think that it wasn't as hot as my last dryer, I've written to the consumer association to get advice on what my options are, but as far as I'm concerned it's not doing what it's supposed to. I have a timer function on mine too but salesman said once I use that it drops the dryers rating, i Tried it out of desperation the other night to see and I dont know if I just didn't put it on for long enough, 30 mins to dry a few socks and underwear, but I can't say that they were bone dry.

the b rated option was my banker i dont know what to do now - maybe i will just light the fire and get the clothes horse out again

But 30 mins to dry a few items doesn't seem right either. today i put about 6kg of wet clothes and 5 hours later the dryer finished - it is just crazy

As far as your rights you have the sale of goods act 1980 - goods must be fit for the purpose that you bought them for. if not then you are entitled to a full refund. So if the clothes dryer is not drying clothes then it is not fit for purpose

Check out the citizens advice site too (www citizensinformation ie map: Home > Consumer Affairs > Consumer protection > Consumer Rights > Your rights as a consumer in Ireland)

the whole thing just seems weird to me. technology is supposed to improve but the dryers available now, in my limited experience, are less effective than those available 10 years ago

sprongBik

I've eventually gone for a Miele T8812C

It is B rated, 7Kg, and cost me another €70

BUT it drys the clothes - amazing!!

It takes about 1 hour 20 mins to dry an almost full load of all sorts of clothes - whether the dryer is full of heavy clothes or light

Dry, not nearly dry but a bit damp, just dry

Ahhh, i am a bit of a sad ... but this really makes me happy

byte

sprongBik wrote: »

I've eventually gone for a Miele T8812C

It is B rated, 7Kg, and cost me another €70

BUT it drys the clothes - amazing!!

It takes about 1 hour 20 mins to dry an almost full load of all sorts of clothes - whether the dryer is full of heavy clothes or light

Dry, not nearly dry but a bit damp, just dry

Ahhh, i am a bit of a sad ... but this really makes me happy

That seems quite quick for a condenser dryer. So, well done in getting a decent condenser. They seem rare.

Miele would be a very good brand also, so should last a fair while.

dodzy

sprongBik wrote: »

I've eventually gone for a Miele T8812C

It is B rated, 7Kg, and cost me another €70

BUT it drys the clothes - amazing!!

It takes about 1 hour 20 mins to dry an almost full load of all sorts of clothes - whether the dryer is full of heavy clothes or light

Dry, not nearly dry but a bit damp, just dry

Ahhh, i am a bit of a sad ... but this really makes me happy

There's your answer right there. One of the best appliance manufacturers on the planet. You pay for their stuff, but it's quality gear.

Droghead

Miele is a great brand, I also have the tumble dryer and it fab and there hoovers are absolutely amazing in comparision to the Dyson!!!!

sprongBik

its just a relief to be able to put clothes in and they come out dry

at this stage i dont care about the extra cost for the unit or the b rated -for the convenience its worth whatever it takes

our washer takes 1 h 15, the dryer 1 h 20 - we can get 2 loads done in under 3 hours - happy daze