BER Advertising Requirements for Internet Based Ads

Brite_Cloud

QUESTION: Is it legal for Daft.ie (Ireland's largest property website) to advertise dwellings for sale/rent when these advertisements contain no BER information?


Useful reference docs might be:

S.I. No. 243 of 2012 - EUROPEAN UNION (ENERGY PERFORMANCE OF BUILDINGS) REGULATIONS 2012

and...

"BER Advertising Requirements Guidelines" - (a pdf supplied by seai.ie)


I've had a look myself and the answer seems to be quite clear.

Carawaystick

Is "the internet" the same as "the Internet"?

There are various inter-networks.

snubbleste

No.

Both the advetiser and the facilitator (in this case daft.ie) are in breach of the legislation.
Is it enforced? No.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=82069379

BenRowe

Isn't it so that only houses above a certain size need a BER cert?

godtabh

BenRowe wrote: »

Isn't it so that only houses above a certain size need a BER cert?

All homes. with certain exceptions based, require a BER. Size inst an exception as far as I know.

When putting an ad on daft it tells you need to put a ber in. You can tick a box saying you know a ber is required and will provide it later. Daft probably have themselves covered

Brite_Cloud

BenRowe wrote: »

Isn't it so that only houses above a certain size need a BER cert?

You're right there. But the cutoff point is a fairly small 50m2, which would only be a square of size 7m X 7m (or 23ft X 23ft approx). Also, this applies only to 'stand alone buildings' and not to apartments.

cut 'n' pasted from SEAI.ie
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What Building Categories are Exempt from BER?

The following building categories are exempt from BER, as permitted by the EPBD:

- national monuments;
- protected structures;
- places of worship or buildings used for the religious activities of any religion;
- certain temporary buildings;
- non-residential industrial or agricultural buildings with a low installed heating capacity (less than 10 W/m2);
- stand alone buildings with a small useful floor area (less than 50m2).

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P.S. - In supplying their service, Daft.ie are acting as an 'agent' for landlords, so they must be breaking the law. No?

snubbleste

Daft are in breach of the legislation. You can complain to the Building Control at www.dublincity.ie citing examples of BER advertising breaches on daft.ie

BenRowe

Brite_Cloud wrote: »

You're right there. But the cutoff point is a fairly small 50m2, which would only be a square of size 7m X 7m (or 23ft X 23ft approx)

I know someone who has a two bed semi d house that size or less as it does not need ber cert

Brite_Cloud

BenRowe wrote: »

I know someone who has a two bed semi d house that size or less as it does not need ber cert

That's highly unlikely. Does the dwelling have two floors, an upstairs and a downstairs? If so, they have probably made the mistake of only measuring the ground-level footprint of the building.

Google >> " SEAI How do we calculate total useful floor area " for more info.

Greenmachine

This one pisses me off. Landlord seem especially reluctant to put up BER certs especially for rental properties. More often than not when they are put up, they are for or F, or G grade buildings. It is pretty unfair for landlords who are playing by the rules.
Been told some serious porkies by EA for building without BER's that they are prolly a C3 or a D1, when an identical building on the same street is listed as an F or a G.