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gardai FOI request.

  • 27-04-2014 6:06pm
    #1
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭


    Lads, I made a request a few months/weeks ago but i'm not happy. I feel like I recieved a very small amount of details and feel like they have kept things from me.

    They never sent me information on penalty points or of an arrest I had many years ago.

    Anything I can do to see if they have more information available?


Comments

  • #2
    Alan Shore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Alan Shore


    I don't think that the Freedom of Information Act applies to The Gardai.

    http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=9372&Lang=1


  • #3
    Tom Young
    Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    It's not an FOI request it's a Data Protection Subject Access Request.


  • #4
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Tom Young wrote: »
    It's not an FOI request it's a Data Protection Subject Access Request.


    oops :o:o

    I'm sure they'll still have to release all available information on me..

    Obviousally theres exceptions. I just thought they'd have more information available on me. :eek:


  • #5
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    James what matters is you know you got those points and you were arrested.

    Chances are the Gardai wrote a ticket and the only record is on the roads corporation end.

    In the case of the arrest well it obivously has not lead to a conviction so the only record is probably in handwritten entries in note books somewhere.

    Long and the short of it is why does it matter if it does not cme up on your data protection request how can it hurt you?


  • #6
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    The fixed charge penalty system has a habit of making up new person records when issuing tickets. If this mistake had not been noticed you may have two separate Garda records. That's why it is important to put all your previous addresses you have used, even if you may not have lived there.


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  • #7
    BaronVon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Plus Data Protection requests only apply to data electronically stored. Guards write things down on paper, not everything makes it across to electronic format!


  • #8
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Zambia wrote: »
    James what matters is you know you got those points and you were arrested.

    Chances are the Gardai wrote a ticket and the only record is on the roads corporation end.

    In the case of the arrest well it obivously has not lead to a conviction so the only record is probably in handwritten entries in note books somewhere.

    Long and the short of it is why does it matter if it does not cme up on your data protection request how can it hurt you?


    Im hoping to either join the army or even gardai in the future and i'm in the process of completing a security course and working with a voluntary organisation hoping I can increase my chances. I just wanted to know just how much was recorded and where it was recorded lol..

    I just found it intresting that none of that stuff appeared and was kinda hoping it was never recorded lol..


  • #9
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The fixed charge penalty system has a habit of making up new person records when issuing tickets. If this mistake had not been noticed you may have two separate Garda records. That's why it is important to put all your previous addresses you have used, even if you may not have lived there.


    Been at this address 20 years mate.. Only driving 5 I think..


  • #10
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    Im hoping to either join the army or even gardai in the future and i'm in the process of completing a security course and working with a voluntary organisation hoping I can increase my chances. I just wanted to know just how much was recorded and where it was recorded lol..

    I just found it intresting that none of that stuff appeared and was kinda hoping it was never recorded lol..

    Well these are things you can't change, apply and see how far you get.


  • #11
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    That's why it is important to put all your previous addresses you have used, even if you may not have lived there.
    That seems like an odd statement.


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  • #12
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Victor wrote: »
    That seems like an odd statement.

    People often register cars to different addresses so a speeding ticket and summons will not reach them.


  • #13
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,159 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    infacteh wrote: »
    Plus Data Protection requests only apply to data electronically stored. Guards write things down on paper, not everything makes it across to electronic format!

    It applies to all personal information. Not just electronically stored.


  • #14
    BaronVon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    joeguevara wrote: »
    It applies to all personal information. Not just electronically stored.

    Sorry, I didn't elaborate fully. A guard taking your details at the side of the road won't always transfer all the information across to the official records held by AGS. It would be impossible for every guard to transfer everything he/she ever writes down to official documents, which can then be released under Data Protection requests.
    Under Section 4 of the Data Protection Acts, 1988 and 2003, you have a right to obtain a copy, clearly explained, of any information relating to you kept on computer or in a structured manual filing system or intended for such a system by any entity or organisation.


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