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  • 25-04-2014 11:28pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6


    I am currently in the states but I need to go home I'm not safe here, I'm from Ireland I'm am Irish Citizen, my Fiancé is from the states, I have a daughter for him that is 7 weeks old what do I have to do to get him into Ireland with me, and so he can get residency to stay? Please we need help! Thank you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Does your daughter have a passport? And is it a US or Irish passport??

    I'm not sure if a De Facto visa is needed for your fiance. I'd get in touch with the Irish Embassy pronto.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Clyde1383


    No she doesn't have one yet, but it will be a US passport she was born here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Might it cause more problems having a US passport if she is coming back here? I'd take advice from both the US and Irish embassies, but thinking about it, it would help your case if the child has an Irish passport for now and can apply for a US one later. Ireland does allow dual citizenship. However IANAL...

    Get advice from an immigration solicitor here or speak to the embassies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭DM addict


    I'd speak to the Irish embassy - they should be able to let you know what the rules are on people coming into Ireland. Should be less of a problem for your daughter, I'd imagine, but that's purely supposition - I've no idea on what the legal position is.

    Also if you're concerned about your safety, I'd talk to the police or a lawyer. Just a point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Clyde1383


    But if I'm an Irish Citizen she should be too, so she should be able to get a Irish passport to right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭DM addict


    Just looked it up - yes, she is entitled to Irish citizenship - details as to how you can get her registered are here - https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/citizenship/born-abroad/

    Details of how to get a passport while in the States - https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/united-states-of-america/

    But if you're concerned about staying in US because of your safety, again I'd advise talking to a lawyer, the police or possibly even the embassy, depending on what the situation is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Clyde1383


    Thank you so much that is so helpful, what about her father how do he get in with us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭DM addict


    I really don't know. I've never had to get a visa for Ireland before. I'm sure that he could come over for a short while and then apply, but I don't know how that works, to be honest. I know of a couple who got a 'de facto relationship' visa, because they'd been together a while and he's Canadian - it allowed him to move over. Apart from knowing it's complicated, I don't know details.

    I don't know if getting married would make it easier or not - I'm guessing that's why you posted in the Weddings forum?

    Like I said, speak to the embassy - they'll be able to give you the clearest and most accurate information about what his visa options are. Importantly, a lot of these things take time. As such, if you're concerned about your safety, then that should be your priority.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭tom_tarbucket


    Clyde1383 wrote: »
    I am currently in the states but I need to go home I'm not safe here, I'm from Ireland I'm am Irish Citizen, my Fiancé is from the states, I have a daughter for him that is 7 weeks old what do I have to do to get him into Ireland with me, and so he can get residency to stay? Please we need help! Thank you.


    Sounds a bit dramatic " I'm not safe here"

    Also you just seem to be off on a ramble, calm down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Moved from Wedding, Marriages and Civil Partnerships. Apologies if it doesn't belong here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Can I ask why you're not safe?

    Your mother posted a thread about this already, and mentioned nothing about safety.

    Surely if you are truly in danger, she'd have mentioned that? Or do you just want to move home and bring your partner with you?

    Also, do you have enough money to rent a place in Ireland? Your mum mentioned in a previous thread that she is between houses at the moment, so you'd probably need a good bit of money, as you will not satisfy the 'habitual residency' clause to claim rent allowance or social welfare.

    If you can prove that your safety is at risk, the procedure and help available may be completely different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Can I ask why you're not safe?

    Your mother posted a thread about this already, and mentioned nothing about safety.

    Surely if you are truly in danger, she'd have mentioned that? Or do you just want to move home and bring your partner with you?

    Also, do you have enough money to rent a place in Ireland? Your mum mentioned in a previous thread that she is between houses at the moment, so you'd probably need a good bit of money, as you will not satisfy the 'habitual residency' clause to claim rent allowance or social welfare.

    If you can prove that your safety is at risk, the procedure and help available may be completely different.

    Absolutely this. I didn't realise it was the same lady who's about to be homeless. And I forgot about the habitual residence part.

    I'd start with getting the baby's passport sorted. From there, you can work towards getting back to Ireland.


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