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Amiga ADF transfer kit help

  • 24-04-2014 8:14pm
    #1
    o1s1n
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    How the hell does this thing work?! :pac:

    I finally got my A1200 up and running again. Actually I'm pretty feckin stupid - bought a Workbench 3.1 'install disk'

    Great! it's installing fine, we have an OS showing up.

    'please insert Workbench disk'

    'There's meant to be more than one disk?!'

    /facepalm - why I thought it was all on one disk I don't know.

    Anyway, I have what looks like workbench, a mouse cursor and some folders to open, but that's as far as I've gotten.

    I have a PCMCIA adapter with a compact flash cart and one of these transfer kits

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161261283753?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    The ebay auction says it's for transferring files from your PC to your Amiga's compact flash drive (via the PCMCIA slot and a compact flash card).

    So what I wanted to do was load up a compact flash card, put it into the PCMCIA adapter and transfer it all to the Amiga's internal compact flash drive.

    However, all the instructions explain is how to write something from an Amiga floppy to the flash drive or from the flash drive to a floppy. There's nothing about transferring from the PCMCIA flash card to the flash drive :confused:

    Anyone ever done this before? I see Amigakits.co.uk have their own version of the transfer kit (called EasyADF) which seems a bit more straightforward. Probably should have gone with that!


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  • #2
    CiDeRmAn
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    PM Kerbdog,
    He's had lots of Amiga experience, might be of some help


  • #3
    Steve X2
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    Why don't you just setup the CF Card in Winuae and then just drop it into the A1200?
    I've the EasyADF stuff but never used it. I've setup an A600 and A1200 in Winuae and it's a lot easier than messing with floppy disks etc.


  • #4
    o1s1n
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    Steve SI wrote: »
    Why don't you just setup the CF Card in Winuae and then just drop it into the A1200?
    I've the EasyADF stuff but never used it. I've setup an A600 and A1200 in Winuae and it's a lot easier than messing with floppy disks etc.

    Yeah I gave that a go (you were even nice enough to send me on an image of your A1200 CF card :)) but I could just for the life of me not get it to work for some reason! :(


  • #5
    Steve X2
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yeah I gave that a go (you were even nice enough to send me on an image of your A1200 CF card :)) but I could just for the life of me not get it to work for some reason! :(

    Maybe start from scratch in winuae? I've recently setup another A1200 CF card hard drive and just started with nothing and built it up with classic wb.


  • #6
    TechnoFreek
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    Are you trying to copy game adfs onto the internal cf to be able to play them?

    Transfer program aside, do you not need the modified is whdload installed along with modified version of each game adf file to be able to do this?


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  • #7
    o1s1n
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    Steve SI wrote: »
    Maybe start from scratch in winuae? I've recently setup another A1200 CF card hard drive and just started with nothing and built it up with classic wb.

    You know what, I think I'll try this out too. I've a few spare CF cards around to give it a go with.
    TechnoFreek wrote: »
    Are you trying to copy game adfs onto the internal cf to be able to play them?

    Transfer program aside, do you not need the modified is whdload installed along with modified version of each game adf file to be able to do this?

    At the moment I'm literally just trying to transfer anything onto the internal cf :D

    If I transfer from the PCMCIA CF it just wants to go to floppy and if I want to go to CF the only option is to go from floppy. It's headwreaking.

    To make it even odder, if I copy a floppy (!) to the CF, it's visible via the transfer tool, but no file shows in the actual system. It's like it's invisible.

    What I basically thought I'd be able to do was to load up the CF in the PCMCIA slot with loads of ADF files, transfer them over to the internal CF with the transfer tool and get it all up and running on real hardware (Rather than using WinUAE) - doesn't seem to be possible with what i have though. Might just have to stick with the WinUAE option.


  • #8
    Steve X2
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    But don't you need to have workbench installed on the cf and have it bootable before you can start copying stuff across??


  • #9
    o1s1n
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    Do you mean the internal CF?

    Yeah so I have workbench installed on that now (via a workbench floppy).

    Not sure what the story is with the external CF via PCMCIA though? (from what I thought you literally stuck your ADF files on this with your PC and the ADF transfer disk was meant to take care of the rest)


  • #10
    Steve X2
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Do you mean the internal CF?

    Yeah so I have workbench installed on that now (via a workbench floppy).

    Not sure what the story is with the external CF via PCMCIA though? (from what I thought you literally stuck your ADF files on this with your PC and the ADF transfer disk was meant to take care of the rest)

    So you want to write *.ADF files from the PC to an Amiga floppy and load that up on the A1200? Because thats what that kit does rather than install them on the CF HD, or am i missing something?
    Also, are you using the Transcend 133x CF as others can have issues.


  • #11
    Andrew76
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    Confused reading this thread. :confused:

    o1s1n, I thought you got one of these chaps for your 1200, ebay link?

    Comes with printed instructions on how to install and copy games to it (although it already comes with all the games iirc). I could scan them to PDF if that is any help?

    Trying to remember if I ever tried copying additional games from PC to it - think it was just a case of taking the cf out of the Amiga, popping it into a usb adapter and into the pc. Long time ago that was so I could be mistaken.


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  • #12
    o1s1n
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    Thanks guys, here's what I'm trying to do in more straightforward terms.

    I have an A1200 with an internal CF card installed (like the one Andrew76 linked)

    So far I've managed to format and install workbench on this internal CF card via a floppy disk. (workbench 3.1 install disk)

    Now what I'm trying to do is move software to the internal CF card.

    Apparently this can be done using the PCMCIA port on the side of the A1200. You load software onto a separate CF card, stick it into a PCMCIA adapter in the side of the Amiga, boot with an 'ADF file transfer disk' and should be able to transfer files from the CF card in the PCMCIA port to the internal CF card if you get me.


  • #13
    Steve X2
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    Standard A1200 won't play adf files so you probably know you need to write them back to floppy using that tool??

    You're better off installing whdload as that's really what you want for loading games from cf.


  • #14
    o1s1n
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    Haha, good man Steve_SI, that would explain it. I thought ADF was a standard Amiga file format. I know you need WHDLoad to get games running, but I at least thought the Amiga could see them.

    So I must be transferring ADF files but the Amiga just doesn't know what they are.

    Back to WinUAE I go! :eek:


  • #15
    Steve X2
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Haha, good man Steve_SI, that would explain it. I thought ADF was a standard Amiga file format. I know you need WHDLoad to get games running, but I at least thought the Amiga could see them.

    So I must be transferring ADF files but the Amiga just doesn't know what they are.

    Back to WinUAE I go! :eek:

    Yeah, that's pretty much it. Now there are tools and utilities to mount adf files on Amiga but that's a pain in the posterior end :)


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