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Over 18 passport need parents signature ?

  • 24-04-2014 10:34am
    #1
    Hollister11
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    Hi
    I got a call from the passport office saying that they can't proceed with my applications because my parents need to sign section 7 and send in their marriage certificate. I'm 18 why do I need my parents permission and why are their details relevant to me.
    I was also told that the guard didn't sign it, which she did as we weren't good 10 minutes with the guard getting signed and stamped and checked it twice.


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  • #2
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,804 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Hollister11 wrote: »
    Hi
    I got a call from the passport office saying that they can't proceed with my applications because my parents need to sign section 7 and send in their marriage certificate. I'm 18 why do I need my parents permission and why are their details relevant to me.
    I was also told that the guard didn't sign it, which she did as we weren't good 10 minutes with the guard getting signed and stamped and checked it twice.

    If you are just turned 18, maybe they "Calculated" your age wrong?

    Did the Guard sign both photos, or just the one.


  • #3
    Hollister11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    If you are just turned 18, maybe they "Calculated" your age wrong?

    Did the Guard sign both photos, or just the one.

    I was 18 in January and sent it off 2 weeks ago. The guard signed 2 photos.


  • #4
    Bicycle
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    If you are under 18 then you would have needed a full birth certificate as well. I'm currently in the process of doing my kids passports: 2 under 18, 1 over 18 so I'm fairly familiar with it.

    Also if you were under 18 you'd have needed someone such as a garda or a school principal or a solicitor to sign Section 7.

    You need to ring the Passport Office back and have a discussion with them about it. There's something not right here if they only spoke about your parents' signatures.


  • #5
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Hollister11 wrote: »
    send in their marriage certificate.
    Anyone know why this is required?


  • #6
    hullaballoo
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    No Pants wrote: »
    Anyone know why this is required?
    I'm just taking a wild guess (I can't find out anything online) but it may have to do with ascertaining parentage and your entitlement to an Irish passport. It's a long time since I first applied for my passport but I have a recollection of needing to get a copy of my parents marriage cert.


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  • #7
    No Pants
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    hullaballoo wrote: »
    I'm just taking a wild guess (I can't find out anything online) but it may have to do with ascertaining parentage and your entitlement to an Irish passport. It's a long time since I first applied for my passport but I have a recollection of needing to get a copy of my parents marriage cert.
    I'm presuming that the OP had to provide a birth certificate as part of his application. Does the marriage cert add anything to that?


  • #8
    hullaballoo
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    No Pants wrote: »
    I'm presuming that the OP had to provide a birth certificate as part of his application. Does the marriage cert add anything to that?
    Proof that the parents whose names are on the birth cert are/were married and, perhaps, their nationality?

    To be honest, as I said, I'm grasping to find an explanation because I can't think of any other valid reason to request it.


  • #9
    No Pants
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    hullaballoo wrote: »
    Proof that the parents whose names are on the birth cert are/were married and, perhaps, their nationality?

    To be honest, as I said, I'm grasping to find an explanation because I can't think of any other valid reason to request it.
    I thought that if he had an Irish birth cert, then he could get an Irish passport.


  • #10
    Hollister11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    OP Here
    I honestly haven't a clue why they need anything else. They said they are sending it back to me. It's my first passport and I'm from Ireland.


  • #11
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Hollister11 wrote: »
    OP Here
    I honestly haven't a clue why they need anything else. They said they are sending it back to me. It's my first passport and I'm from Ireland.
    Did you have to supply a birth cert with your application and is it an Irish one?


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  • #12
    PLL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    No idea, but I'd do what they ask anyway. On the subject of Marriage certs I had to give them my Dad's divorce cert even though the woman he was married to wasn't my mother or guardian and I'm 24. Crazy stuff, got a passport eventually though.


  • #13
    Lmklad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Lmklad


    No Pants wrote: »
    Anyone know why this is required?

    To assist in proving guardian ship of the child, particularly if father isn't on the birth cert.

    OP id say they simply made a mistake. If it's your first they require birth cert, 4 photos (two signed) and proof of address.


  • #14
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,804 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    No Pants wrote: »
    I thought that if he had an Irish birth cert, then he could get an Irish passport.

    Only if born before 2003 (which he must be if 18). After that (when McDowell changed the law) not always.


  • #15
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,627 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Only if born before 2003 (which he must be if 18). After that (when McDowell changed the law) not always.

    Surely you mean when the Irish electorate exercised their rights in a referendum drummed up by irrational fear of millions of west Africans landing in Dublin airport and giving birth on the tarmac.


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