The Raid (remake)

weiland79

Yes you read it right. To be directed by Patrick Hughes the Australian chap that's currently filming The Expendables 3.

Quote from the article " Because It's an American take" " In terms of the martial arts, you're looking at a clash of cultures and also a clash of styles."

http://ie.ign.com/videos/2014/04/22/news-raid-remake-update

Oh the horror! I really can't see this being anything other than a total F**k up and completely pointless Hollywood remake.

Go nuts Boardsies.

ancapailldorcha

weiland79 wrote: »

" Because It's an American take"

I'm going to interpret that as a euphemism for "terrible".

Bacchus

Ugh, The Raid is an almost perfect action movie. It grabs you by the balls right from the start and never lets up. The combination of great camera work, perfect & clever action sequences, fantastic martial arts & the soundtrack make it completely redundant to try and remake it. Any remake would be lucky to capture a fraction of what made the original so enjoyable.

Go hollywood!

krudler

Pointless, the dialogue scenes aren't exactly weighty in The Raid so why bother

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

krudler wrote: »

Pointless, the dialogue scenes aren't exactly weighty in The Raid so why bother

brown people I guess

Kiith

Just watch Judge Dredd. It's basically the same movie, with shooting instead of fighting.

Seriously though, i'm not surprised. I know a few people who won't go to see a film, simply because they have subtitles. I'm sure there are plenty of people similar to them both here and in America. It's utterly stupid, but not surprising.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i was trying to get people together to go see it if it came to carlow and no one would bite, even people who loved the first one. said they wouldn't go see a subtitled film in the cinema

I couldn't get my head around their argument so I just left it at that.

Skerries

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i was trying to get people together to go see it if it came to carlow and no one would bite, even people who loved the first one. said they wouldn't go see a subtitled film in the cinema

I couldn't get my head around their argument so I just left it at that.

t'would sicken ya so it would!

TerrorFirmer

The remake will probably be countless-fold more profitable.

Looper007

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

The remake will probably be countless-fold more profitable.

That's the sad thing is you are probably right. Any sign of subtitles even if it's a action film frightens some people sadly. I don't know why they can't overdub the voices and released it for the American market.

Let's be honest I'm not surprised in the least about this, the American's always jump on the bandwagon when something hip an now always comes along.

Duggy747

The Raid starring Zac Efron

Looper007

Duggy747 wrote: »

The Raid starring Zac Efron

With Lady Gaga as hammer girl and Jar Jar Binks as Benjo.

e_e

Michael Bay directing Megan Fox as hammer girl. Gratuitous upskirt shots and slow motion galore. :pac:

weiland79

e_e wrote: »

Michael Bay directing Megan Fox as hammer girl. Gratuitous upskirt shots and slow motion galore. :pac:

Actually doesn't sound too bad:pac::pac:

Looper007

Looper007 wrote: »

That's the sad thing is you are probably right. Any sign of subtitles even if it's a action film frightens some people sadly. I don't know why they can't overdub the voices and released it for the American market.

Let's be honest I'm not surprised in the least about this, the American's always jump on the bandwagon when something hip an now always comes along.

Pretty sure that it's not just the Americans who jump on bandwagons. Every country around the world remakes films and 9 times out of 10 they're remaking American films.

I have no problem with a remake of the Raid. It could be the worst film ever made but it won't diminish the impact and legacy of the original. If anything a remake will broaden the audience for the original. While it's a film well known amongst film buffs it's not one that has broad appeal. Both films have been given limited releases worldwide which means that few people have access to them.

Looper007

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty sure that it's not just the Americans who jump on bandwagons. Every country around the world remakes films and 9 times out of 10 they're remaking American films.

ah but the other countries do some amazing remakes though:D. The American's will put a hip hop track on it, put some famous pop star in it, have channing tatum with no shirt on and some awful CGI and been sponsored by Burger King for the tie in.

Looper007

Looper007 wrote: »

ah but the other countries do some amazing remakes though:D. The American's will put a hip hop track on it, put some famous pop star in it, have channing tatum with no shirt on and some awful CGI and been sponsored by Burger King for the tie in.

So do the Americans. Some of the best films ever made are American remakes. There's long been an opinion amongst film snobs that all remakes, in particular American made ones are worthless trash aimed at the lowest common denominator. The same people who share that opinion also look down their noses at the cinema going masses as beneath them.

Looper007

Deleted User wrote: »

So do the Americans. Some of the best films ever made are American remakes. There's long been an opinion amongst film snobs that all remakes, in particular American made ones are worthless trash aimed at the lowest common denominator. The same people who share that opinion also look down their noses at the cinema going masses as beneath them.

Well is it beneath them to read subtitles on a screen, is it that hard really just cause it hasn't got a big star name in it. Come on lets not throw out the snobbish line Darko. I have no problems with remakes but would it make more sense to get Gareth Evans on board, give him free reign, a budget and create a new storyline and work in some new creative fight scenes. Put in a few well known faces as villians along with the Raid main star, Instead of hiring some hack no body to remake an already perfect action film.

johnny_ultimate

I'm long past the point of getting in any way emotive about remakes (unless it happens to be a particularly serious affront against cinema and/or decency). More productive and good for the soul to just ignore them, unless it's one of the occasional cases when the result ends up worthy of attention.

A different language version doesn't diminish the original work, and it in no way effects me if I simply don't watch the remake. I can't change the viewing habits of the American public, so better to leave them at it and pay attention to what I want to watch instead.

Looper007

Looper007 wrote: »

Well is it beneath them to read subtitles on a screen, is it that hard really just cause it hasn't got a big star name in it. Come on lets not throw out the snobbish line Darko. I have no problems with remakes but would it make more sense to get Gareth Evans on board, give him free reign, a budget and create a new storyline and work in some new creative fight scenes. Put in a few well known faces as villians along with the Raid main star, Instead of hiring some hack no body to remake an already perfect action film.

It's not beneath them, that's utter nonsense. The fact that the Raid and thousands of other subtitled films do decent business in the US every year kinda proves that. I also see films such as The Grandmasters and dozens of other foreign films pop up in the popular on Netflix list on a daily basis There's also the fact that every year a number of specialist labels release foreign films on DVD and Blu-Ray and they do fantastically well. And lets not forget the fact that both of Mel Gibsons subtitled films went down a storm with American audiences. It's obvious that subtitles aren't the problem but rather access to subtitled films.

People look down at the average cinemagoer , it's the reason that we get posts on this forum saying that the reason Snowpiercer was cut is because Americans are stupid. It's such a tired put down that simply isn't true. Most Americans are every bit as smart as the Irish, British, Japanese, etc. And they obviously.

Have you considered that Evans doesn't want to remake his film? He's currently in production on the Raid 3 and as such he hasn't much time to be messing about on anything else. Remember what happened with the Night Watch trilogy when the director decided to do a few things in between films in the series. If you think that Patrick Hughes is a noname hack then it says alot about your interest in cinema. While he's only made one feature thus far, it was the incredibly good Red Hill. He may not be up there with Spielberg but honestly the man has talent to spare and is one of the few reasons to be genuinely excited about Expendables 3.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

the majority of the posts about snowpiercer were disagreeing with weinstein that the american public was too stupid for the uncut movie... i dont think i saw one post blaming the great silent majority for weinsteins attempted abortion.

titan18

There's a dubbed version on the Blu-Ray, there's not much dialogue anyway that subtitles have any impact on the film and I've never seen any American film get anywhere close to the fight scenes in the The Raid in the first place.

humanji

Kiith wrote: »

Just watch Judge Dredd. It's basically the same movie, with shooting instead of fighting.

No, watch Dredd! Judge Dredd is a very, very different film.

Ipso

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I'm long past the point of getting in any way emotive about remakes (unless it happens to be a particularly serious affront against cinema and/or decency). More productive and good for the soul to just ignore them, unless it's one of the occasional cases when the result ends up worthy of attention.

A different language version doesn't diminish the original work, and it in no way effects me if I simply don't watch the remake. I can't change the viewing habits of the American public, so better to leave them to it.

In fairness subtitled films aren't exactly lapped up in Ireland!

Bipolar Joe

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty sure that it's not just the Americans who jump on bandwagons. Every country around the world remakes films and 9 times out of 10 they're remaking American films.

I have no problem with a remake of the Raid. It could be the worst film ever made but it won't diminish the impact and legacy of the original. If anything a remake will broaden the audience for the original. While it's a film well known amongst film buffs it's not one that has broad appeal. Both films have been given limited releases worldwide which means that few people have access to them.

I agree, apart from the bit in bold. People who overlooked the original because it's subtitled aren't going to decide to go watch basically the exact same movie in another language after seeing the remake.

Bipolar Joe

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

I agree, apart from the bit in bold. People who overlooked the original because it's subtitled aren't going to decide to go watch basically the exact same movie in another language after seeing the remake.

I'm not referring to the people who won't watch it because it's subtitled but rather those who have no idea it exists. The Raid, for all it's acclaim and success is still a niche film that most casual cinema goers have no idea exists

death1234567

Kiith wrote: »

I know a few people who won't go to see a film, simply because they have subtitles. I'm sure there are plenty of people similar to them both here and in America. It's utterly stupid, but not surprising.

The seven lines of dialogue that I had to read subtitles for in 'The Raid' nearly killed me.

Less talking, more jabs.

e_e

death1234567 wrote: »

The seven lines of dialogue that I had to read subtitles for in 'The Raid' nearly killed me.

Less talking, more jabs.

Did you happen to watch this version? Seems hilarious.

Fysh

e_e wrote: »

Did you happen to watch this version? Seems hilarious.

"If I had to fathom a guess, I would say The Raid: Redemption was about an elderly police lieutenant driven mad after being repeatedly face-raped in his sleep by his landlord."


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e_e

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