Poor signal quality on second box

dmca77

Hi,

I wonder can someone help me.

I have a blade 7000 hd in the living room with no problems at all.

In the kitchen I had a open box with a 40 meter cable run at first I had a poor signal and fitted an inline amp all was okay for 1 year.

About 3 months ago signal quality had been poor on vertical channels on the openbox and I found out it was only when the living room box was off, when turned on was fine. ( I could live with this then over time got worse to no vertical channels at all. I replaced the inline amp and still the same, then I came across problems with open box turners and put it down to that.

I purchased an solo 2 for the living room and put the blade into the kitchen and still the same but now no channels at all with a signal quality of 20 percent, I then replaced the lnb and still the same but living room box all is okay.

Only thing I have left is the cable but can a cable go faulty over time?

I have replaced all connections and don't want to replace the cable and be stuck again.

Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks

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steveon

First of all you should not need a line amp for a run of 40metres if you do then it must be very poor cable or old cable.

Secondly you say it only caused problems when the first box was off, have you got the lnb power switched to on the second box? It should be set to on and you need both 13 and 18v for the box to work correctly on alot of boxes setting the lnb type to universal and ensuring the voltage to the lnb is switched on is suffice

What type of Lnb are you using is it a Dual or quad lngb and do you have a separate cable running from the dish to each box???

STB

steveon wrote: »

What type of Lnb are you using is it a Dual or quad lngb and do you have a separate cable running from the dish to each box???

Obviously not if turning off one box was turning the signal off at the other box. Sound like a setup where someone is looping off one box to the next.

The problem would seem to be that there is only one feed coming in from the dish, with the first box getting preference and the second box getting a limited list of tp's, ie the same ones that the OP is watching in the first room.

steveon

STB wrote: »

Obviously not if turning off one box was turning the signal off at the other box. Sound like a setup where someone is looping off one box to the next.

The problem would seem to be that there is only one feed coming in from the dish, with the first box getting preference and the second box getting a limited list of tp's, ie the same ones that the OP is watching in the first room.

Exactly what I was thinking ! Hence why I am covering both it and all other options!

dmca77

Its a quad lnb and no loop hence why I replaced the lnb.

I only have 2 feeds running off quad lnb to both boxes and no loop

I have both boxes power to lnb turned to on.

Cable to second box is RGB 5 which I purchased from BandQ a year ago.

Thanks

steveon

Rg5b is not for sat it is for cctv or for making a long phono lead...replace the cable with RG6 as std or ct100 for longer runs!

dmca77

Thanks for that,

Makes sense to me, I wonder why Screwfix.com and BandQ andvertise it for Digital tv.

Is there a supplier in Dublin were I can get this. I recently purchased the solo2 in Swords last week but to be honest language barrier seamed to be a bit of a problem as I don't think he knew what I was asking/saying.

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steveon

Rg6 is the std for tv rg56 or RG5as you called it is thinner and is mostly used for CCTV and suffers higher losses as a resuly, most electrical wholesalers will stock RG6 or a proper equivalent or if you are really worried bout the losses CT100 would be even better but for 40m you shouldn't need it in my honest opinion.

Id find it hard to beleive that stockist of the Solo2 would not have what you need....

dmca77

steveon wrote: »

Rg6 is the std for tv rg56 or RG5as you called it is thinner and is mostly used for CCTV and suffers higher losses as a resuly, most electrical wholesalers will stock RG6 or a proper equivalent or if you are really worried bout the losses CT100 would be even better but for 40m you shouldn't need it in my honest opinion.

Id find it hard to beleive that stockist of the Solo2 would not have what you need....

He had loads of cable on show but to be honest I never mentioned my problem about the signal as I thought the lnb was the problem.

He seamed very professional to be honest as he up the box network settings in front of me and explained the importance of the serial number which I took no notice off at the time and I now know why!

RG6 it is so.

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STB

Well I didnt see that coming. Not rg59 that you have installed?

Anyhow. If its swordsatellites that you bought it off they have plenty of sat cable on their website.

You will get a roll of it for €20.

Pastor Toastman

dmca77 wrote: »

Cable to second box is RGB 5 which I purchased from BandQ a year ago.

What is RGB 5 cable? What did you actually buy?

As already said, RG59 is only good for flyleads at TV frequencies or, baseband video.

steveon

Pastor Toastman wrote: »

What is RGB 5 cable? What did you actually buy?

As already said, RG59 is only good for flyleads at TV frequencies or, baseband video.

Rg5 iRg56 cabling ....I would highly advise anyone to keep away from any place like homebase for buying tv and satellite equipment as most I have seen so far has been below standard and well overpriced

winston_1

steveon wrote: »

Rg6 is the std for tv rg56 or RG5as you called it is thinner and is mostly used for CCTV and suffers higher losses as a resuly, most electrical wholesalers will stock RG6 or a proper equivalent or if you are really worried bout the losses CT100 would be even better but for 40m you shouldn't need it in my honest opinion.

Id find it hard to beleive that stockist of the Solo2 would not have what you need....

CT100 is obsolete and has not been manufactured for over 10 years. Some retailers sell crap cable and wrongly label it as CT100.

steveon

winston_1 wrote: »

CT100 is obsolete and has not been manufactured for over 10 years. Some retailers sell crap cable and wrongly label it as CT100.

Ct100 is not obsolete....it is readily available from a lot of top manufacturers such as Triax,

Wf100 cabling is also available which is similar but better in preference but again is more expensive than CT100.

WF100 has a foam inner insulation whereas CT100 has airspaced inner insulation...Wf100 is better for stopping water filling inside it...Again for a run of 40metres both Wf100 and CT100 would be overkill in my opinion.

winston_1

CT100 IS obsolete. It was made by Radex but I don't think they even exist now. Anyone labelling their cable as CT100 is guilty of misrepresentation. As I said some people sell crap cable wrongly labelled as CT100.

The Cush

This is some info I posted previously

A brief history of CT100: Volex/Raydex CT (CT=Copper tape) 100 (100=1.00mm centre core).

CT100 was manufactured by Raydex until 2005.

Volex/Raydex no longer exists as a cable manufacturer and so the brand name CT100 also no longer exists, but people still refer to 1.00 mm copper tape and braid cable as CT100, I suppose like people calling their vacuum cleaner a Hoover, a brand name that's become a generic name.

Volex/Raydex launched, among other products CT100 in the 70's and was universally recognised as the byword for quality TV coaxial. In 1991 Raydex acquired Fothergill Cables leaders in the production of high performance specialist cables for the Industrial, Aerospace and Defence markets. Volex Grp-Raydex Specialist were bought by CDT (Cable Design Technologies Corp) in 1995 and CDT were subsequently merged with Belden during 2004 to form the largest global electronic cable manufacturer. The Raydex and CT100 brands disappeared following the merger.

A list of benchmarked cable is available on the CAI website - http://www.cai.org.uk/information/benchmarking-scheme/cai-benchmarked-cables.

greasepalm

hope that solo2 is not a clone waiting to die,and that box needs 2 input cables for best results.
if all cable was done at same time maybe redo both with shotgun cables=2 single feeds side by side.

winston_1

The Cush wrote: »

This is some info I posted previously

A brief history of CT100: Volex/Raydex CT (CT=Copper tape) 100 (100=1.00mm centre core).

CT100 was manufactured by Raydex until 2005.

Volex/Raydex no longer exists as a cable manufacturer and so the brand name CT100 also no longer exists, but people still refer to 1.00 mm copper tape and braid cable as CT100, I suppose like people calling their vacuum cleaner a Hoover, a brand name that's become a generic name.

Volex/Raydex launched, among other products CT100 in the 70's and was universally recognised as the byword for quality TV coaxial. In 1991 Raydex acquired Fothergill Cables leaders in the production of high performance specialist cables for the Industrial, Aerospace and Defence markets. Volex Grp-Raydex Specialist were bought by CDT (Cable Design Technologies Corp) in 1995 and CDT were subsequently merged with Belden during 2004 to form the largest global electronic cable manufacturer. The Raydex and CT100 brands disappeared following the merger.

A list of benchmarked cable is available on the CAI website - http://www.cai.org.uk/information/benchmarking-scheme/cai-benchmarked-cables.

Thank you. So it looks as if I was wrong, it's only been obsolete for 9 years, not 10!