most profitable beef breed

farmingmad10

Which in your opinion is the most profitable beef breed & system? With beef prices desperately low which breed of cattle is the best to make profit over a sustained period.

simx

farmingmad10 wrote: »

Which in your opinion is the most profitable beef breed & system? With beef prices desperately low which breed of cattle is the best to make profit over a sustained period.

let me know when ya get your answer
lots of variables in that question, if i was going sucklers again id work ch as i think they are the only breed to be selling, as for drystock, buying/selling i reckon there can be equal enough returns got out of any breed, good or bad looking animals, all depends on what paid for the animal, how they faired out, how much inputs/costs they had,length of time kept, what the end payment was, would very rarely buy ch or lm myself unless at good value, my animal of choice will only grade O or P, i know my answer isnt helping that much but its a very hard question to answer

farmingmad10

Suckler farming in ireland their not much profit in it. Charolais cows aren't that great tho not that milky same with limousine. But hard to see how suckling is profitable tho. Figures just don't add up

on the river

farmingmad10 wrote: »

Suckler farming in ireland their not much profit in it. Charolais cows aren't that great tho not that milky same with limousine. But hard to see how suckling is profitable tho. Figures just don't add up

charolais are poor milkers. yet a SI x CH cross bring alot of milk.

suckler farming runs on very tight margins , where breaking even is a struggle in its self.

Damo810

Going to vary on farm, location and what the local demands are. There is no 'number 1' cow, bullock or system. If that were the case everyone would end up with them..

farmingmad10

on the river wrote: »

charolais are poor milkers. yet a SI x CH cross bring alot of milk.

suckler farming runs on very tight margins , where breaking even is a struggle in its self.

I can't agree with the Si x ch brings more milk. I have some & im disappointed with their milk can't beat the black limousine out of friesan cow or black & white Hereford.

on the river

farmingmad10 wrote: »

I can't agree with the Si x ch brings more milk. I have some & im disappointed with their milk can't beat the black limousine out of friesan cow or black & white Hereford.

ya and then you will have dirty brown calves that will get low price at mart:(

farmingmad10

I put charolais bull on them and do get fine calves. One thing I make a must is milk. Nothing gives as much hardship & work as f****g charolais cows with no milk at calving with a big calf

on the river

farmingmad10 wrote: »

I put charolais bull on them and do get fine calves. One thing I make a must is milk. Nothing gives as much hardship & work as f****g charolais cows with no milk at calving with a big calf

I agree cross her with shorthorn then your in business.

farmingmad10

I don't like those charolais anyways they are wicked *****

on the river

farmingmad10 wrote: »

I don't like those charolais anyways they are wicked *****

so why do you use ****** charolais. They are so many breeds to chose from.

A personal favourite of mine is a angus saler cross great mothers with loads of milk.

Farrell

farmingmad10 wrote: »

I don't like those charolais anyways they are wicked *****

What's the back breed, as CH are very docile, we can pet ours.

As highlighted CH/LM can be milky depending on dam's breeding.
Lots pick heifers for cows cos the look nice, or couldn't sell them.
Allot depends on your system, ours is weanlings for export, so we go CH, BB, LM & occasionally BA.
Need mussle, length & frame. Colour is important.
Milk is important, but so too is grass management (help keep down inputs)

blue5000

farmingmad10 wrote: »

Which in your opinion is the most profitable beef breed & system? With beef prices desperately low which breed of cattle is the best to make profit over a sustained period.

OP are you talking pure bred or cross, what market are you aiming for?

Genghis Cant

blue5000 wrote: »

OP are you talking pure bred or cross, what market are you aiming for?

That's exactly it. There are different markets with different demands. Different breeds have their own characteristics and bring different traits to the mix.

farmingmad10

on the river wrote: »

so why do you use ****** charolais. They are so many breeds to chose from.

A personal favourite of mine is a angus saler cross great mothers with loads of milk.

We only got a few but I not a fan. We dairy & only suckle a small herd. Finish the aax calves to beef aswell.Their is more money in calf to beef than sucklers

GrandSoftDay

on the river wrote: »

ya and then you will have dirty brown calves that will get low price at mart:(

Not always the case. I have seen plenty of Lim x friesan cows bring lovely Golden charolais calves..and good ones at that but I think they are hard enough kept cows. A handy sized thick sort of a red Lim is what I'd like. Have a soft spot for a good shorthorn or red whitehead too but hard to find them.

Western Pomise

As some posters have said there are a lot if intangibles and variables involved,.personally speaking working on average land trying to get max profit per acre with lowest input costs and breeding a consistently high priced weanling it's hard to beat the Shorthorn cow crossed with easy calving quality Char bull.