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Shell and Core Office - Fitout

  • 21-04-2014 2:34pm
    #1
    bigmanhole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭


    Quick question: Does an existing Shell and Core office require planning permission for its fit-out. The S and C building is 2 years old and a purpose built office block. There are no external or roof modifications. Purely an internal fit out. THanks.


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  • #2
    BryanF
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    Have professional review planning, Dac & fire cert. You need to be confident that conditions/ stipulations have been met and won't be affected by the fitout. But typically no planning is not required assuming the above don't through up anything


  • #3
    4Sticks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭4Sticks


    It always requires a fit out fire cert. Which will require an SI 9 CN


  • #4
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Defo Fire Cert


  • #5
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Fire Cert required for the layout.
    Possible D.A.C. required for the layour opun occupation.

    Commencement Notice or 7 Day noticed required.

    Will SI9 occur as there is no commercial extension to the building, just fit out?


  • #6
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    kceire wrote: »
    Fire Cert required for the layout.
    Possible D.A.C. required for the layour opun occupation.

    Commencement Notice or 7 Day noticed required.

    Will SI9 occur as there is no commercial extension to the building, just fit out?

    when a Fire Cert is required doesn't that de facto mean compliance with SI9?

    ie works to which the second schedule of the building regulations applies.


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  • #7
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    when a Fire Cert is required doesn't that de facto mean compliance with SI9?

    ie works to which the second schedule of the building regulations applies.

    Yeah sorry, meant would he have to go with AC etc or only the short form of CN? (I know, i should know this :))


  • #8
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    kceire wrote: »
    Yeah sorry, meant would he have to go with AC etc or only the short form of CN? (I know, i should know this :))

    ;)

    we should be asking you this? :D


    i think its a clear case of assigned certifer required.


  • #9
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    ;)

    we should be asking you this? :D


    i think its a clear case of assigned certifer required.

    Good thing the BCO's in Dublin are not involved in the admin side of things :D


  • #10
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    kceire wrote: »
    Good thing the BCO's in Dublin are not involved in the admin side of things :D

    so your saying that the decision as to whether or not SI 9 applies is NOT made by BCO's??


  • #11
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    so your saying that the decision as to whether or not SI 9 applies is NOT made by BCO's??

    Explains all my unanswered emails to various BCAa! :p


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  • #12
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    so your saying that the decision as to whether or not SI 9 applies is NOT made by BCO's??

    We have no input into the validation process. By the time the files come to a BCO, they have been accepted and validated. I thought that was the norm. The technical side and the administrative side are separate processes.

    Obviously we don't ignore each other and we go to each other at times to get some answers etc


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