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Brother broke iphone and won't pay

  • 18-04-2014 1:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭


    My brother tripped me up on purpose with my iphone 5 in my jacket pocket it fell out and the screen cracked.
    Now he is saying it's my fault I fell and I'm clumsy.
    Now I can't afford to pay €130 to get it fixed. It was his birthday recently so he has the money but refuses to pay.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    What age is your brother?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    cymbaline wrote: »
    What age is your brother?

    15


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    How old are you both?

    You can't really 'make' him pay, but if you're both under 18, you could speak to your parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    What does your parents say?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    They said it's my responsibility to fix it and don't believe my version


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Then there's nothing you can really do, except try to talk to them again.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why don't your parents believe your version?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭beauty101


    These things happen. Bit immature of your brother to trip you up but boys will be boys. Check if it's still covered by warranty. If not then chat to your parents about having the screen replaced & get yourself a cover & screen protector for the future!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    beauty101 wrote: »
    These things happen. Bit immature of your brother to trip you up but boys will be boys. Check if it's still covered by warranty. If not then chat to your parents about having the screen replaced & get yourself a cover & screen protector for the future!

    Screen breaks aren't covered under warranty by any phone company unfortunately.

    Op, do your parents give you pocket money? If they do, you could ask them to pay for the screen repair, and deduct half of your pocket money each week til it's paid off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    I'm pretty sure some vendors charge 50 euro for replacement


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    When did the screen get cracked?
    Is it the first thing or second time?
    I just ask this because of this thread!
    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057158348/1/#post89225403
    If its the second time it happened your parents might have a hard time believing your story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    When did the screen get cracked?
    Is it the first thing or second time?
    I just ask this because of this thread!
    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057158348/1/#post89225403
    If its the second time it happened your parents might have a hard time believing your story.

    Second time. I only paid to get it fixed and I'm broke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Second time. I only paid to get it fixed and I'm broke.

    Not to be cheeky, but I wouldn't believe your brother did ot, if you had already broken it previously yourself.

    You really should be getting screen protectors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    Not to be cheeky, but I wouldn't believe your brother did ot, if you had already broken it previously yourself.

    You really should be getting screen protectors.

    It was in my pocket playing football so I didn't drop it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    It was in my pocket playing football so I didn't drop it.
    iPhone in your pocket while playing football? Smart.

    Chances are you would have broken it again sooner or later if that's how you look after your stuff. Maybe try a Nokia 3210?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    It was in my pocket playing football so I didn't drop it.

    Soooo.... your brother didn't trip you then, he tackled you during a game of football and you went down.

    I'm not surprised that your parents told you to pay for it yourself, or that your brother refuses to pay - you had it stuffed in your pocket while playing sport, and are suffering the consequences.

    Suck it up, repair it yourself, and learn from it rather than trying to fob blame off on someone else. Otherwise there'll be plenty of points throughout the course of your life where it won't be so easy to solve the problems caused by your own carelessness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,909 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    It was in my pocket playing football so I didn't drop it.

    Take it out of your pocket when playing sports, it's your own fault


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    Playing football was the first time I broke I got it fixed for €130
    He tripped me the second time and won't take the hit.
    If it was the other way around id have to pay but he is getting off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    It's your phone your responsibility.

    If he had taken it from you and knowingly thrown it to the ground that would be one thing.
    Tripping you up - tom-foolery among siblings is something else. There was no intent there to break your phone. Hardly his fault it was in your pocket.

    If you don't already have one look into getting a quality cover for the next time it hits the ground, you'd be amazed at the punishment my phone has taken. Think you really need to let this go, I know you're annoyed but blaming your brother while normal is not going to get your screen replaced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Such jolly japes and craic. I was always trying to trip up my siblings in the hope they would smash their teeth off the kerb and such.

    Suck this one up OP but any time he asks you for anything in the next decade or so you can remind him of the incident where you learned what type of person he is...and tell him to go **** himself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭qdawg86


    You've given him a chance to pay up, you've tried mediation i.e....the parents.

    It's now time for revenge.

    Its a dish best served cold. Which basically means giving yourself time to plan something thats really going to piss him off. This will also reduce the likelihood of you taking the rap for it, as retaliating too soon after he broke your phone will raise much suspicion about your involvement. Personally I would wait 2 months minimum.

    Don't go overboard....I'd suggest waiting until he is out of the house and then smashing something of equal value to the damage to your phone.

    And when the time comes...deny, deny, deny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭beauty101


    qdawg86 wrote: »
    You've given him a chance to pay up, you've tried mediation i.e....the parents.

    It's now time for revenge.

    Its a dish best served cold. Which basically means giving yourself time to plan something thats really going to piss him off. This will also reduce the likelihood of you taking the rap for it, as retaliating too soon after he broke your phone will raise much suspicion about your involvement. Personally I would wait 2 months minimum.

    Don't go overboard....I'd suggest waiting until he is out of the house and then smashing something of equal value to the damage to your phone.

    And when the time comes...deny, deny, deny.

    Seriously??
    That type of behaviour is both foolish and immature.

    I think you'll have to let it go OP for the sake of peace. He didn't intend to break it, it was an accident. Buy a cover and forget about it. Also don't pay €135 to get your screen replaced, that's robbery!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    qdawg86 - suggesting to an OP to intentionally destroy another person's property is not on here, as you well know. Constructive and legal advice in the future please.

    Regards,
    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    qdawg86 wrote: »
    You've given him a chance to pay up, you've tried mediation i.e....the parents.

    It's now time for revenge.

    Its a dish best served cold. Which basically means giving yourself time to plan something thats really going to piss him off. This will also reduce the likelihood of you taking the rap for it, as retaliating too soon after he broke your phone will raise much suspicion about your involvement. Personally I would wait 2 months minimum.

    Don't go overboard....I'd suggest waiting until he is out of the house and then smashing something of equal value to the damage to your phone.

    And when the time comes...deny, deny, deny.

    Encouraging criminal damage, holding a grudge, dishonesty. Not really helpful to the OP.
    Things get broken OP sometimes its not your fault and you just have to accept it and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭qdawg86


    mike_ie wrote: »
    qdawg86 - suggesting to an OP to intentionally destroy another person's property is not on here, as you well know. Constructive and legal advice in the future please.

    Regards,
    Mike

    Oh for goodness sake !!! This was tongue in cheek :rolleyes:

    Yes it would be foolish and immature......just as deliberately tripping someone up is.......along with being very dangerous. But unfortunately 15 year olds are generally nothing but foolish and immature therefore you may just have to try your best to avoid him or as another poster suggested, remind him that he should not expect you to do him any favors from now on.

    Also, on a slight side note-there is nothing wrong with holding people responsible for their actions. It is generally those who care the least about the impact of their actions on others who are quickest to preach the 'take the high road' or the 'be the bigger person' mantra.

    So have the confidence to let him know that in your eyes, his actions are not acceptable.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,957 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    OP try talking to your parents again, see if they can help you out or mediate between you and your brother, maybe you could agree to go halfs on the repair? I can see why you're mad but tbh after breaking it once already you really should have bought some sort of protective case for it. What age are you BTW? It would be worth taking out phone insurance, it's something like a tenner a month but very handy in case this happens again. Not sure if they sell it to under 18s though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Toots* wrote: »
    OP try talking to your parents again, see if they can help you out or mediate between you and your brother, maybe you could agree to go halfs on the repair? I can see why you're mad but tbh after breaking it once already you really should have bought some sort of protective case for it. What age are you BTW? It would be worth taking out phone insurance, it's something like a tenner a month but very handy in case this happens again. Not sure if they sell it to under 18s though.

    Phone insurance is false economy. OP if you live in Dublin go to the Chinese phone shops and ask how much it would be for a repair. Ask every single shop ad the ones on Capel street. I got an iPhone 4S screen replaced for €30. But you have to bargain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭thefeatheredcat


    tbh I think this is a situation of live and learn. I don't see anything you can do, except live with a phone with a cracked screen, or save up pocket money to get it fixed, or even save up the money for a cheaper alternative.

    I have nephews similar in age to yourself and your brother..... they have broken their phones and similar items that we just don't bother getting that sort of stuff, because they are so careless with their belongings. A typical example was a phone screen getting broken because it fell out of an open pocket while playing soccer. Another example is leaving a laptop in its case on the floor by a bed and standing on it when getting up, resulting in a cracked screen. In both instances because of the carelessness involved and the lack of responsibility they just had to live with it.

    Your parents aren't really going to care whose fault it is. It doesn't matter (it's a bit like how irrelevant who started a fight was) all they know is that there's a phone with a broken screen. I wouldn't be rushing to fix or fork out the money for it to be fixed, it's really up to you to learn to be more responsible with your belongings and take precautions against them in having protective covers and have them secured out of harms way. Maybe if you have to put up with the broken screen even if it renders the phone that bit useless, then you might learn to take better care of your stuff in future, whether it's your phone, your school stuff incl uniform, computers, sports gear etc. It's really up to you to show that you can be responsible for your belongings, and can also take responsibility for your part in them getting broken.

    If you really can't cope with a broken screen then talk to your parents about getting a cheap phone.... They're basic, for texts and calls, great as a spare.

    There's not much you can do about your brother either. At his age he should know better and he would be as equally as upset as you are if someone else did the same to him as he did to you. But you know yourself it's not nice what has happened and wouldn't want that to happen to someone else because of the situation it has left you in. He will have to live with knowing he tripped you up and might feel guilty about it and the end result. Not worth holding it against him tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,957 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    hfallada wrote: »
    Phone insurance is false economy. OP if you live in Dublin go to the Chinese phone shops and ask how much it would be for a repair. Ask every single shop ad the ones on Capel street. I got an iPhone 4S screen replaced for €30. But you have to bargain.

    Phone insurance saved my phone twice this year, once when the screen cracked right down to the LCD, would have cost me about €250 to repair but only had to pay €20 and the insurance did the rest, and then later it was stolen :(. Each to their own but I'd be a bit dubious about the quality of a repair for €30 when buying the part direct from the manufacturer is something like €150 not including the fitting.


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