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Good Friday Compulsory Holiday

  • 17-04-2014 8:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    I can't find any info on this and I am just curious!

    My job informed us yesterday that they are closing Good Friday and we have to take it out of our holidays, we have always worked on this day and I and the other employees don't actually want or need it off so we are a bit annoyed about it but not sure where we stand.

    Can anyone shed any light on this, Are they allowed do this? If so, then fair enough but we just want to know for sure!

    Cheers :)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,179 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    They can do this - our company closes at Christmas and we have to use our annual leave for it however:

    'It is for your employer to decide when annual leave may be taken, but this is subject to a number of conditions. Your employer must take into account your family responsibilities, opportunities for rest and recreation that are available to you and to consult with you (or your union) at least one month before the leave is to be taken'

    Im not sure if this applies but Im sure someone on here will know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭blindsider


    In theory, they're not being reasonable.

    In reality, it's one day - you may have to live with it. However, I would ask them (next week) re other compulsory days and ask for more notice next time.

    Is there anything in your contract? Sometimes you may see "The company reserves the right to......"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    I will have a look at my contract when I get home, we are a small company and they have never done anything like this before but we will just leave it go id say but its a bit strange to have suddenly done it this year and no reason was given, they are usually very open about everything, its one of those kind of companies but things seem to be changing little by little!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭gingergirl


    Hi, does anybody know is Good Friday this year a bank holiday because of 2016 centenary?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Not at where I work - needed to use up a vacation day to take the time off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    gingergirl wrote:
    Hi, does anybody know is Good Friday this year a bank holiday because of 2016 centenary?


    Good Friday is always a bank holiday but never a public holiday. This year is no different

    A little off the subject but they are celebrating the easter rising too early. The centenary isn't till April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭blindsider


    gingergirl wrote: »
    Hi, does anybody know is Good Friday this year a bank holiday because of 2016 centenary?

    Nope, 'fraid not.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/1916-bank-holiday-not-happening-2388060-Oct2015/


    Good Friday is a religious holiday, and is not a Public Holiday.

    I reckon that we will all work on GF in a few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,560 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Good Friday is always a bank holiday but never a public holiday. This year is no different

    A little off the subject but they are celebrating the easter rising too early. The centenary isn't till April.

    pretty sure its not a bank holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    salmocab wrote: »
    pretty sure its not a bank holiday.

    It is, the banks are closed. It's not a public holiday that we get a day off for. It is in the UK though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,560 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    toadfly wrote: »
    It is, the banks are closed. It's not a public holiday that we get a day off for. It is in the UK though.

    ah I see normal use of bank holiday would generally mean a payed day off but its obviously a technical difference


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    salmocab wrote:
    pretty sure its not a bank holiday.


    Banks don't open good Friday. This makes it a bank holiday but not a public holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    Sleeper12 wrote:
    Banks don't open good Friday. This makes it a bank holiday but not a public holiday.


    That's right. Similar to the 27th of December.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Our offices close down, but we are given one extra day's holiday to cover it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I really don't like taking it off in a way. Always end up crunching 5 days work into 4. And the same the week after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    To confuse things some more, although the government don't make it a public holiday most government offices are closed. Civil servants get whats known as a privilege day, an extra day to allow them to go home to the country for the weekend. Originally this day way need for the long journey it used to take to travel home to parts of the country. Banks will be closed while postmen deliver post. Sadly the pubs are still closed. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Good Friday is always a bank holiday but never a public holiday. This year is no different

    A little off the subject but they are celebrating the easter rising too early. The centenary isn't till April.

    And they also seem to be celebrating the resurrection, having the main parade on Easter Sunday, rather than the insurrection which began on Easter Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    testicle wrote: »
    And they also seem to be celebrating the resurrection, having the main parade on Easter Sunday, rather than the insurrection which began on Easter Monday.

    But the Easter bunny will be here on the Sunday sop all is well with the world. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,401 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Civil servants get whats known as a privilege day, an extra day to allow them to go home to the country for the weekend.

    That's long since abolished. Civil Servants get Good Friday and Easter Monday off and anything else comes from their leave entitlement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,436 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    blindsider wrote: »
    I reckon that we will all work on GF in a few years.

    Most people already do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Dodge wrote: »
    That's long since abolished. Civil Servants get Good Friday and Easter Monday off and anything else comes from their leave entitlement


    Thats what |I said. Good Friday is a privilege Day & Monday is a Public holiday. They still have another Privilege day at Christmas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Thats what |I said. Good Friday is a privilege Day & Monday is a Public holiday. They still have another Privilege day at Christmas.

    No that used to be the case but not anymore. When I worked in the public sector we got Good Friday/Easter Monday off, with all employees having the option to also take Holy Thursday or the following Tuesday off too, which was your privilege day (i.e. didn't come off your annual leave). This was a result of some union deal from years ago. There used to be a similar arrangement around Christmas.

    These were some of the first things to go during the public sector 'reform' during the recession.

    All public sector staff still get Good Friday and Easter Monday off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    No that used to be the case but not anymore. When I worked in the public sector we got Good Friday/Easter Monday off, with all employees having the option to also take Holy Thursday or the following Tuesday off too, which was your privilege day (i.e. didn't come off your annual leave). This was a result of some union deal from years ago. There used to be a similar arrangement around Christmas.

    These were some of the first things to go during the public sector 'reform' during the recession.

    All public sector staff still get Good Friday and Easter Monday off

    You are missing the point. Good Friday is not a public holiday. It is one of two privilege days still left. Civil servants get paid for Good Friday & another day at Christmas & it doesn't come out of their holidays. Privilege days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,401 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Thats what |I said. Good Friday is a privilege Day & Monday is a Public holiday. They still have another Privilege day at Christmas.

    Its not what you said, and you're still wrong.

    Good Friday is the only non-Public Holiday that civil servants get off.

    Everything else is either a public holiday (Easter Monday, Christmas Day, Stephen's Day, May bank Holiday etc) or it's taken from their annual leave.

    The privilege day no longer exists, and hasn't for at least 6 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    In my previous job, we used to get Good Friday as a paid day off, a company day. Then one year, about a day or two before Good Friday, the company sent around a memo to say that it would no longer be a company day, it would come out of annual leave and the office would be closed. A few people kicked up, mainly the stingey ones. Rest of us decided to just enjoy the day off as Holy Thursday was a great night out.


    Where I work now we can decide ourselves if we want to take it as annual leave or come into work. I take it off, the child is off school, hubbie gets it as a company day from work so we enjoy our day together. If I did go into work it would be quiet anyway cos most people would assume we are closed and many clients would take the day off themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,401 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    You are missing the point. Good Friday is not a public holiday. It is one of two privilege days still left. Civil servants get paid for Good Friday & another day at Christmas & it doesn't come out of their holidays. Privilege days...

    *sigh*

    The privilege day was in addition to Good Friday/Easter Monday (and in addition to Christmas Day/St Stephens Day). It no longer exists. How can you not understand this?

    They DO NOT get any additional days at xmas (above the public holidays).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Dodge wrote: »
    Its not what you said, and you're still wrong.

    Good Friday is the only non-Public Holiday that civil servants get off.

    Everything else is either a public holiday (Easter Monday, Christmas Day, Stephen's Day, May bank Holiday etc) or it's taken from their annual leave.

    The privilege day no longer exists, and hasn't for at least 6 years

    Good Friday was a privilege day. It was part of the other privilege days, holy Thursday etc. The unions may have changed the name but if civil servants still get Good Friday with full pay & it doesn't come out of their annual leave what title do you want to put on this "ex privilege day" that they still get off with pay???

    I don't see the problem here. I'm not bitching about it. I'm not saying they don't deserve it. I'm happy for them but you are actually arguing about what to call a day that used to be called a "privilege day". Thats nuts.

    My original point is its confusing for people to call Good Friday is a bank holiday but not a public holiday. A lot of people think that a Bank Holiday is a public holiday when it clearly isn't. It is then more confusing when the government says its not a public holiday but gives its staff the day off on full pay bit it doesn't come out of their annual holidays (I call this a privilege day & you can call it what you want).

    The pubs are closed & jet the postman still works. Its a day of many contradictions to be sure, to be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,279 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Dodge wrote: »
    *sigh*

    The privilege day was in addition to Good Friday/Easter Monday (and in addition to Christmas Day/St Stephens Day). It no longer exists. How can you not understand this?

    They DO NOT get any additional days at xmas (above the public holidays).

    What was Good Friday then??? Not a public holiday What is it called??
    Its a bloody privilage if you ask me!!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    mod: Sleeper and Dodge, please drop the public/civil service privilege day discussion.


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