getting a job as a foreigner

mayflo

long story short it's f**kin hard.

hello. I'm Korean guy, who 25yd military trained, experienced sales and cashier, English student.

I know I'm not that good at English and my shape is not use to you guys and its hard place to get a job but its really annoying me.

I'd never spend my time to getting a job like here. before I moved out if I want to get a part time or major job, just send my CV and wait few hour than they response me you got a interview or denied. but here are waiting forever.

I was thought Ireland need to defens system from foreign worker because its hard to find Irish worker on the street but it was wrong idea. most of professional jobs are allowed for Europeans, euro language speakers and some Japanese.
(for my case maybe the reason is I didn't have a licence and citizenship but the other guys are also saying like that. just want to know the true)

I heard one of my ex-flat mate(Irish) are decide to go to Korea again to earn some money and that was interesting for me.
I was earned 1500 Eur/m as working in European retails sales assistant and cashier but never been happy in there. but go to getting a job to Korea? I thought that's only some Chinese and ES Asian to send money for their family. (no offence. I'm looking for a job in here like those guys except earning money for study here)

Dublin is beautiful city but rent is expensive. and my mobile was stolen 2 weeks ago form one Pakistani ass hole. so I don't have smart phone now.

I need a job. what ever kind of job. if anyone who looking for Korean guy to hire here I am.
and thanks for read my complains.

davo2001

It's not just you, alot of people (including native Irish) are having alot of problems getting a job! It is nothing about you being a foreigner.

Mr. Loverman

Have you tried going into the Korean/Chinese/Japanese restaurants and asking if they need waiters?

mayflo

/Mr. Lovrman

Yes. I've been, and almost every workers were Korean and they are payed like 6 Eur/h.
and manager was suggested 6 Eur either.

what do you think?

Michael D Not Higgins

mayflo wrote: »

/Mr. Lovrman

Yes. I've been, and almost every workers were Korean and they are payed like 6 Eur/h.
and manager was suggested 6 Eur either.

what do you think?

The minimum wage is €8.65/hour

Mr. Loverman

Were you offered EUR 6.92 per hour?

"An employee who is in the first year of employment since the age of 18 is entitled to €6.92 per hour (80% of minimum wage)".

I hope you can find something soon. Don't give up.

PS I can see there are some jobs for Korean speakers: http://www.dole.ie/main/index/1/basic/korean/0/relevance/all/0/0/20/0/0/0/0/0/0/0

PPS Korea is an awesome country. I go there a few times each year.

Michael D Not Higgins

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Were you offered EUR 6.92 per hour?

"An employee who is in the first year of employment since the age of 18 is entitled to €6.92 per hour (80% of minimum wage)".

I hope you can find something soon. Don't give up.

PS I can see there are some jobs for Korean speakers: http://www.dole.ie/main/index/1/basic/korean/0/relevance/all/0/0/20/0/0/0/0/0/0/0

PPS Korea is an awesome country. I go there a few times each year.

I think in this case, you can't say he's in his first year of employment. International students on visas have the same rights as Irish workers.

mayflo

thanks million guys.
I feel very cheered up.

actually I was tried to do my own business to import something from Korea and it wasn't very well.
but it is kinda private and someone can be annoying.

if anyone interesting about my business send me an E-mail, I will response and can give some sample if you were live in Dublin.


again thank you duds.

Mrs OBumble

Michael D Not Higgins wrote: »

The minimum wage is €8.65/hour

Ya, but lots of NESB foreign workers actually get paid less than that. Illegal, but it happens. The ones who know it's illegal and complain about it tend not to get jobs.


OP, I have to ask: what visa do you have? Are you entitled to work here, and how many hours for each week?

fermanagh_man

Are you looking for jobs only in Dublin?

sopretty

mayflo wrote: »

but here are waiting forever.

I was thought Ireland need to defensive system from foreign worker because its hard to find Irish worker on the street but that was wrong idea. most of professional jobs are allowed for Europeans, euro language speakers and some Japanese.
(for my case maybe the reason is I didn't have a licence and citizenship but the other guys are also saying like that. just want to know the true)

I thought that's only some Chinese and ES Asian to send money for their family. (no offence. I'm looking for a job in here like those guys except earning money for study here)

Dublin is beautiful city except dogs s**t on the street especially near my house but rent is expensive. and my mobile was stolen 2 weeks ago form one Pakistani ass hole. so I don't have smart phone now.

You sound extremely aggressive and quite racist to be honest. You have slated in one post; the Irish workers, Europeans, Euro language speakers, Japanese, Chinese, ES Asian and Pakistani's. I don't think this will work well in your favour.

Your command of the English language, apart from your ability to identify nationalities, also needs some work.

Beano

What actual skills do you have that an employer would want?

ABajaninCork

Language skills, OP!! Have you tried to get a job where your mother tongue might be useful? Where are you looking?

Beano

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Language skills, OP!! Have you tried to get a job where your mother tongue might be useful? Where are you looking?

Translation usually requires proficiency in two languages. No offence to the OP but his english isnt top quality. I'm still trying to parse

I was thought Ireland need to defensive system from foreign worker because its hard to find Irish worker on the street but that was wrong idea.

sopretty

Beano wrote: »

Translation usually requires proficiency in two languages. No offence to the OP but his english isnt top quality. I'm still trying to parse

I figured he was under the illusion that the Irish Army was recruiting?

Beano

sopretty wrote: »

I figured he was under the illusion that the Irish Army was recruiting?

well fair play to ya for figuring that out. It had me stumped. he's not a citizen and he's too old so the defence forces was never going to happen.

Stheno

Beano wrote: »

well fair play to ya for figuring that out. It had me stumped. he's not a citizen and he's too old so the defence forces was never going to happen.

Well there ya go I thought he was a 25 year old who had done military service!

mayflo

/MRS OBUMBLE

I can work here 20hrs/w during my school days and 40hrs/w in vacation. most of student are having 6 month vacation in 1 year course.
also me.

/MR fermanagh_man

unfortunately yes, I was spent almost 2 month for find this flat and I'm perfectly satisfying to staying here, and I need to go my school 2 more month. I can get a job other place after finish my school.
but if work is from Friday to Sunday and can supply my transportation fee, I can go to other part of Ireland.

/sopretty

I feel sorry if you feels like that. especially if you uncomfortable with some country and races I referent.
I was just want to tell something about I saw and feel honestly what I feel and want to get some advice. I'm not that rude person.

Sorry, I don't understand. if you talk to me I'm under the illusion to join Irish Army, that's not true. I don't want to go back to Military, and also I was Air-force when I was in duty. only 2 years is enough to me in military.

again I'm really sorry for make you feel unhappy.

/Beano

I'm a person like ball of fire. I was worked as military security guard of VIP(even I mat president Obama when I was counter terrorist force), and sales man, Actor, House keeper, Bartender, Karaoke worker, Fixing and handler of ATM(have to carry 20K Eur cash almost every term and handle machine 20~30 each day), retail Cashier, Freelancer to sell game music, Work in guest house in Germany, etc...
I didn't put all of my career in my cv. because I want to work with chance to speak more English. so I'm dropping my cv in stores and game company.

and yes. that's right. I'm not perfect in English yet, but translate English to Korean is not even a game to me. I'm pretty sure my Korean language is enough even I have to change your law books to mine.
my vocabulary is not that wide. might be need a dictionary but translate to native isn't that hard if you read a book enough in your life.

/ABajaninCork

yes. language skills are really powerful. (maybe OP is true if it was Korea)
usually Korean company are hiring upper 800~850 in TOEIC exam. it could be unfamiliar but its really over heated in some countries. sounds ridiculous but nowaday most of university are doesn't graduate students if they didn't get higher 7~800 in TOEIC even their major is involve with English or not.
so they are study only for exam. and get nice grade but can't speak. all they can do is getting answer on the list. and also company doesn't need to speak English but require that things.
funny true.
I'm looking in Dublin. but I can work Friday to Sunday if company are interested in paying my transportation fee.

dearvitali

I'm a Korean who's been in Dublin for a month, and I guess you're generalising too much maybe.

I agree that Asians and Koreans are ethnically minor here, so there could surely be some racism.

But have you ever tried to get any "professional jobs" here though I don't think they are available for part time jobs? And would you hire a random guy from south asia who's claiming that he's certified, but barely speaks Korean if you owned a company in Korea? I definitely would not.

There could be more opportunity for EU citizens and Euro language speakers because the market is obviously bigger. You can't really complain about this and call it Irish racism.

It also seems like you still need to work on your English as well. I mean you've already reached some level, but you will be better just if you try. I believe you can.

Plus, I guess your Irish ex-flat mate is not going to work as a cashier in Korea. There are lots of English speaking people working as teachers in Korea, and they usually work in a good condition and make quite good money as well. I also think that the rent here is very reasonable when comparing to madness of the rent in Seoul.

It's not just about Ireland being racist. It's actually quite simple. They obviously have more access and opportunity to European market than to Korean market. No wonder they prefer EU citizens who know the culture and the language. They would also prefer a Fluent speaker of English when they hire as well.

So don't give up and keep going. You will somehow manage to find a job here. Good luck!

mayflo

/dearvotail

Thanks for advice. its really makes me ashamed because of your objective overview.
again, I didn't mean Ireland has a racism. just want to discuss about getting a job as a temporary foreigner.

But yes. now I can catch why many guys are accept my write is racism. I didn't mean to complain like that.
most of jobs I applied were simple temporary things like cashier or sales guy because I need to go back someday.
if I had better skill like IT or fluent English should be more easier.

Sorry, I can't agree with rent part. sometime fee of rent in Seoul is can be called madness but that's only some place. if is not south side of river and some specialized place, rent isn't that expensive. rent of here are generally higher for only a single room or even shared room (of course deposit is ten times than here but...) actual rent of Seoul is cheaper if we calculate include most of fees. think about it. no one paying rent for few thousand per month in Seoul if is not super modernized complex apartment.

Okay, maybe I was a blind from deem vision by staying alone. even that simple job is need to long run worker not like temporary guy.
your reply was really helpful to rebuilt my mind. I want to buy a meal someday. I will not give up and study English more harder. Thanks a lot. thanks million.

the_syco

Look for a job in a pub. The fact that you'll accept a lower wage can be used as a selling point. Have worked with a couple of chinese lads in a pub, and of the course of 6 months, their english drastically improved, mainly as they're interacting with the public all the time.

The_Conductor

dearvitali wrote: »

There could be more opportunity for EU citizens and Euro language speakers because the market is obviously bigger. You can't really complain about this and call it Irish racism.

Before a company is allowed a visa for a non-EU citizen, they have to sign a statement that they have attempted to offer the job to an EU citizen and failed to find a suitably qualified person for the role. Getting a work permit- is not a walk in the park by any means.

Mrs OBumble

The OP does not need a company to sponsor him for a visa, he's already told us (in a roundabout way) he's on a student visa.

And it is correct that there's not much market for Korean speakers here, compared to the market for other languages.

Arthur Beesley

mayflo wrote: »

thanks million guys.
I feel very cheered up.

actually I was tried to do my own business to import something from Korea and it wasn't very well.
but it is kinda private and someone can be annoying.

if anyone interesting about my business send me an E-mail, I will response and can give some sample if you were live in Dublin.


again thank you duds.

Dude, no need to insult us...

Pixie69

Any good at fixing electronics?

Arthur Beesley

Which is best Korea, OP?

mayflo

/Arthur Beesley

Sorry Mr arthur. I don't understand insulting you.
I was just said tried to make my own business here and here are huge amount of left over have to spend.
and about OP, if you're talking about a job it could be a doctor(especially plastic surgeon I guess)
or nature born rich. If you have enough money, Korea can be a heaven.

/Pixie69

No. I didn't learnt that. but if it's not hard thing and you looking for a guy to work, I can do.
Usually I'm good to learn very quickly and during I learn you can pay me lesser than minimum wedge until I'm used to it.

My major was chemistry but I was have a trouble with my professor. so I drop out. but after quit the univ, I started to learn my self more than I was taught. so I'm really open to learn new skills if you can teach me during I stay here.

despot

I was born and raised in Ireland, schooled in Ireland and I'm unemployed in Ireland probably longer than you are Mayflo.

Keep the chin up, something has to come along for us eventually buddy.

Gone West

despot wrote: »

something has to come along for us eventually buddy.

A job is not going to come knocking on your door, you need to go out and work hard to get it for yourself.