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  • 16-04-2014 7:29am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭


    If someone is sent to prison in Ireland for 13 months (for harrasment) will they actually "do" the 13 months? This is at least the 3rd time he has been imprisoned. Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Possible, but unlikely. All prison regimes offer some degree of "time off" for orderly behaviour; for obvious reasons the ability to offer this is an important tool in prison management.

    Repeat offending is (or should be) punished not by harsher remission terms, but by a higher sentence to begin with.

    In general the rule is that you will get a 25% remission of sentence for good behaviour. "Good behaviour" basically means not infringing the prison disciplinary code; for every disciplinary infraction you commit, some of your 25% remission may be lost.

    Under this system, the only thing that effects the remission you earn is your behaviour in prison. What you did that got you sent to prison in the first place is irrelevant.

    Remission is different from temporary release until end of sentence. Under temporary release until end of sentence, you may get out before you have served even 75% of your assigned sentence. There are a combination of factors that go into a temporary release decision - your behaviour in prison, your behaviour on any day or weekend temporary releases you may already have had, your family situation and circumstances, your risk of reoffending, and whether they need the space for someone whose a bigger crim than you. In a temporary release decision, the fact that you were a repeat offender already would certainly go against you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    If someone is sent to prison in Ireland for 13 months (for harrasment) will they actually "do" the 13 months? This is at least the 3rd time he has been imprisoned. Thank you.

    While officially it requires good behaviour, in fact to the best of my knowledge all prisoners get the statutory remission of 1/4 so a 13 month sentence will be about 10 months, also prisoners serving short sentences (depends on prison) and depending on the crime may be granted early release by the prison service. Its simply a problem of not enough prison places or over reliance on prison as a solution for minor crimes, take your pick. To double prison numbers and double time served would at a quick estimate push the cost of the service from c 300 million to 1.2 billion a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Benbulnen64


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    If someone is sent to prison in Ireland for 13 months (for harrasment) will they actually "do" the 13 months? This is at least the 3rd time he has been imprisoned. Thank you.

    Prison Rules 2007: one quarter remission of sentence imposed, so remission will be one quarter of 13 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    While officially it requires good behaviour, in fact to the best of my knowledge all prisoners get the statutory remission of 1/4 so a 13 month sentence will be about 10 months, also prisoners serving short sentences (depends on prison) and depending on the crime may be granted early release by the prison service. Its simply a problem of not enough prison places or over reliance on prison as a solution for minor crimes, take your pick. To double prison numbers and double time served would at a quick estimate push the cost of the service from c 300 million to 1.2 billion a year.

    Yes, I thought that there had been a successful legitimate expectation claim in respect of the 25% remission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Thank you.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    You would get the full remission unless you really were disruptive of the prison regime. Depending on the circumstances of the case early release might be granted also


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