Ignorance

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

People feed and prosper on others' ignorance.

I can't decide however if this is actually a good thing. The fact that a seeming majority on this island don't know how to change a headlight bulb, never mind change oil, filters etc. at first annoys me, as it's not that difficult to learn.

However it presumably results in more garage technicians gaining employment.

If we all knew everything about everything there wouldn't be many jobs around. This could end in anarchy. So ignorance is a positive and I will celebrate my superior ignorance.

shanec1928

ok.....

colm_mcm

I BUY sandwiches every day.

robtri

Whats the point you are trying to get at??

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

I don't know if I really have a point. I think I'm losing my marbles to be honest.

colm_mcm

Shall we delete the thread and never speak of it again?

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

Shall we delete the thread and never speak of it again?

Please do but don't feed on the ignorance of others while doing it

corktina

you can't delete it yet, I haven't saddled up yet

RandomAccess

I think he's right, black-box thinking is on the increase. But some people are finding this intolerable and doing what they can to avoid being a victim of it.

Symptoms of the bad,
Disposable technology which is difficult to repair such as the latest macbook pro's.
Things in general are now built to be assembled once, and not repaired. Makes it hard to do some very simple maintenance such as changing a light bulb!

Symptoms of the good,
ifixit.com, people who are responding to those who are willing to try and fix their own things even when they are marked as non user servicable.
Forums such as these where people can get into doing things for themselves

JohnBoy26

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

People feed and prosper on others' ignorance.

I can't decide however if this is actually a good thing. The fact that a seeming majority on this island don't know how to change a headlight bulb, never mind change oil, filters etc. at first annoys me, as it's not that difficult to learn.

However it presumably results in more garage technicians gaining employment.

If we all knew everything about everything there wouldn't be many jobs around. This could end in anarchy. So ignorance is a positive and I will celebrate my superior ignorance.

porsche boy

Ok. You go change a headlight bulb on a Renault Modus and tell me how ya get on...

Also go ahead with your oil change on a new car and watch your warranty go down the drain because you cant prove what mileage and grade of oil you used.

My opinion would be that people should stick to what their good at. If your a computer programmer you stick to that and dont try changing your brake pads ruining your calipers in the process.... as was delivered to me on the back of a truck last week.

Dont assume things are as easy as they seem on the surface... specialist tools can be required for the simplest jobs these days.

/rant.

sogood

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

I don't know if I really have a point. I think I'm losing my marbles to be honest.

There's probably a niche market waiting to be exploited. "Marble Finder wanted" Which is the last resort of those who can't find their own.

I'm all in favour of DIY and circumventing the calculated obsolescence, no serviceable parts attitude that prevails today. And generally, I don't screw up any more often than the professionals seem to do.

naughtysmurf

I know somebody who would call roadside assist if they got a puncture

porsche boy

naughtysmurf wrote: »

I know somebody who would call roadside assist if they got a puncture

On a weekly basis we'd get a few cars on a tow truck for flat tyres. It's the downside of most policy's having roadside assist. I cant believe the fella wouldn't just change the wheel. Then if ya cant fix it we get told to put the spare on and see them later in the day at the second hand tyre place.

corktina

I can understand people not being able to change a wheel. If you never did it , it is quite daunting....also messy if you are dressed up

naughtysmurf

Not being able is one thing, not bothered your hole is another

Lando Griffin

naughtysmurf wrote: »

I know somebody who would call roadside assist if they got a puncture

My OH got a flat tyre one evening outside the house, it was raining so I didn't want to get wet. A simple phone call later and truck with flashing lights came and changed it.

JohnBoy26

corktina wrote: »

I can understand people not being able to change a wheel. If you never did it , it is quite daunting....also messy if you are dressed up

Not to mention trying to change a wheel in bad weather.

biko

Ignurence is de wurst.

To be honest, people can't know everything, hence we have highly skilled technicians to do certain things for us.
It's not ignorance.

Sh1tbag OToole

porsche boy wrote: »

Ok. You go change a headlight bulb on a Renault Modus and tell me how ya get on...

Also go ahead with your oil change on a new car and watch your warranty go down the drain because you cant prove what mileage and grade of oil you used.

My opinion would be that people should stick to what their good at. If your a computer programmer you stick to that and dont try changing your brake pads ruining your calipers in the process.... as was delivered to me on the back of a truck last week.

Dont assume things are as easy as they seem on the surface... specialist tools can be required for the simplest jobs these days.

/rant.

French cars are the worst for this. You need a special tool from the factory just to open the door on the new ones. I believe they call it a "key"

the_syco

In all honesty, they should make it easier to change the lightbulbs in cars, as some cars are frigging impossible!

Mickey H

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

French cars are the worst for this. You need a special tool from the factory just to open the door on the new ones. I believe they call it a "key"

It's called a hammer in Mayo. Grand job. Works a treat.

Sh1tbag OToole

Mickey H wrote: »

It's called a hammer in Mayo. Grand job. Works a treat.

Pity the natives wouldnt try one out on Enda Kenny's skull

naughtysmurf

I must be old fashioned, I wouldn't consider a puncture a reason to call out breakdown assist unless I couldn't get the nuts off, even if it was raining & I was wearing a suit

FullblownRose

Easy to learn if you have time and preferably someone to show you

Kilgore__Trout

Really bugs me when people use Firefox or Chrome, instead of writing their own browser. Pure laziness.

Sh1tbag OToole

Kilgore__Trout wrote: »

Really bugs me when people use Firefox or Chrome, instead of writing their own browser. Pure laziness.

I use a simple python script to reduce pages to plaintext and I imagine in my head what the JavaSh1t code would do, then I phone up Google Ireland and tell them what I've been doing all day and what they should try to sell to me

Pinch Flat

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Not being able is one thing, not bothered your hole is another

Or having a go on a motorway hard shoulder on a drivers side wheel with the drivers door open is just plain moronic (as well as illegal).

Lyaiera

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

I use a simple python script to reduce pages to plaintext and I imagine in my head what the JavaSh1t code would do, then I phone up Google Ireland and tell them what I've been doing all day and what they should try to sell to me

If you delete Google's number from your phone you've just written yourself a simple little ad blocker.

bradlente

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qR5tRwvuas

ScumLord

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

If we all knew everything about everything there wouldn't be many jobs around.

Division of labour has been the cornerstone of civilization since it was invented. If everyone worked just for themselves we wouldn't have time to get anything other than feeding ourselves accomplished each day. By splitting labour we can have some members of the community specialise and become very good at particular tasks.

It's not ignorance you're seeing it's just specialisation. Some people are farmers so others can go on to make art and science.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

I'm not ruling out specialisation. If I lived without ignorance I could, for example, recognise a malignant melanoma on my torso without recourse to a GP. I would need the skills of specialists to conduct a biopsy and surgical removal, but I'd have saved myself 50 quid on a GP visit. Naturally (being free from ignorance) I would know the process and technique required for the aforementioned biopsy and surgery, so it could even be possible to carry out these tasks myself if I had access to the relevant equipment.

Again I would know how to build the equipment, but I suppose you have to draw the line somewhere or you'd get nothing done. Which backs up your post Scumlord.