Kingman

Johner · 14-04-2014 9:56pm #1

Seriously impressive in the Greenham at the weekend. Can anything touch him in the Guineas on good ground?

unitedrover · 14-04-2014 10:44pm

Australia Australia Australia

And the lads think he could be the best horse they've ever had.

rossom · 14-04-2014 10:48pm

unitedrover wrote: »

Australia Australia Australia

And the lads think he could be the best horse they've ever had.

Haven't heard that come out of Aidan's mouth before!

rossom · 14-04-2014 10:49pm

Was blown away by Kingman's win in the Greenham and he looks a potential superstar. It'll take a seriously good one to beat him if he runs to the level we've seen thus far.

unitedrover · 14-04-2014 10:59pm

rossom wrote: »

Was blown away by Kingman's win in the Greenham and he looks a potential superstar. It'll take a seriously good one to beat him if he runs to the level we've seen thus far.

Reminds me of Frankel. Same colours, same trial win and we all know what he did in the Guineas.

I'm still in the Australia camp though.

Johner · 14-04-2014 11:03pm

The turn of foot Kingman showed was electric. Australia will be better over a longer trip.

rossom · 14-04-2014 11:10pm

unitedrover wrote: »

Reminds me of Frankel. Same colours, same trial win and we all know what he did in the Guineas.

I'm still in the Australia camp though.

Reminds me of Frankel too and even sports a similar cross noseband.

Australia is completely priced up on reputation/connections to me and I don't think he's really done much on the track.

He was very impressive when beating Free Eagle at Leopardstown but I just don't think it was the latter's running and the way Smullen took care of the horse seemed to suggest that.

I actually prefer War Command who was scintillating in the Coventry over 6f.

Gregk961 · 14-04-2014 11:37pm

Toormore supposed to be going on thursday at newmarket,looking forward to seeing how he looks after the winter. Kingman has set quite a marker, but I wouldnt be sold on O'briens hype talk to be honest. As stated above he might have just caught free eagle on a bad day.

tryfix · 14-04-2014 11:55pm

He's a fabulous looking prospect. The value is now gone on him and there's always the chance that with Gosden's horses flying last week and some unproven horse in 3rd and 4th, that the form is not quite what it appears to be.

He's so fast that he may have trouble lasting home, I remember his coming back to Emirates Flyer and Music Theory at Sandown.

I like Australia, but it's hard to imagine him having the speed to beat Kingman on top form.

I really like Toormore already rated at 122, not sure what the news is like for him, but he really impressed me when quickening twice is his National Stakes win. Expect him to come into his own later in the season, but would find it hard to pass him by at Newmarket.

War Command is another solid horse who you could see powering up to the line at a nice price.

Harry Angstrom · 15-04-2014 5:11pm

rossom wrote: »

Haven't heard that come out of Aidan's mouth before!

I wonder if Aidan has said yet that Australia has enough speed to win a July Cup?

BumperD · 15-04-2014 8:00pm

What impressed me most about Kingman run was he seemed to accelerate twice during the race, once to box his way into position , then a second time to put the race to bed. That is not easily done. I recall watching Treve do the same in her arc warm up (though her double take was more pronounced) and that's what sold me on her. Value gone now I suppose though for this fella.

NewApproach · 15-04-2014 11:29pm

Can I aftertime a little? I have him at 14s. Not that it matters, he probably goes to France anyway :rolleyes:

tryfix · 25-04-2014 3:43pm

Master Carpenter didn't exactly advertise the form today when beaten 3 3/4l today by Western Hymm. He had a nice staying on run today and still only split an 80 and 90 rated pair in the 2nd and fourth horses.