Emmigration

That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy

Emmigration happened on a large scale within the past couple of years with many people having to leave in search for work. Emmigration is good for those with limited opportunities here. They make something of themselves away and that's good whereas if they were to remain here they would be faced with unemployment day in and day out.

I have two siblings who have moved away for work and it's great for them because they are happy. Happier than they were at home. I'm delighted for them. I do miss them though. By the autumn I'm going to have two more siblings gone and then that's it. It will just be me at home.

Can I ask something please?

For those who have been affected by emmigration with loved ones having to move away abroad, how are you doing?

I'm going to be a first time aunt from one of my siblings in Australia and I'm delighted. However, there's something in me like a sadness because they are so far away. Do you know what I mean?

bodice ripper

Grand yeah

Sir Osis of Liver.

Fcuk em,lucky bastards.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy wrote: »

Emmigration happened on a large scale within the past couple of years with my people having to leave in search for work. Emmigration is good for those with limited opportunities here. They make something of themselves away and that's good whereas if they were to remain here they would be faced with unemployment day in and day out.

I have two siblings who have moved away for work and it's great for them because they are happy. Happier than they were at home. I'm delighted for them. I miss them. By the autumn I'm going to have two more siblings gone and then that's it. It will just be me at home.

Can I ask something please?

For those who have been affected by emmigration with loved ones having to move away abroad, how are you doing?

I'm going to be a first time aunt from one of my siblings in Australia and I'm delighted. However, there's something in me like a sadness because they are so far away. Do you know what I mean?

First of all, "my" people...?

Secondly, as someone who emigrated six years ago for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with economics or employment (I had a job and I quit) I am massively happier abroad. Home was a very limiting place where I was supposed to fill a role. Home is now a place where I am free to be what I want to be without fea of judgement or ridicule. Simples.

And I have pretty much the same mone as I would hve had I stayed at home.

Hope that answers your question.

SEPT 23 1989

That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

First of all, "my" people...?

That was a mistake. That should read many. Gone back and edited.

Oranage2

I've also left a decent job in Ireland and moved abroad. I'm much happier than I was in Ireland, I do miss seeing my family and friends though, but Ireland has very little going for it, work Monday to Friday, get smashed on the weekend and post on Facebook how great your life is.

LizzieJones

I hear a whole lot of Irish folks are coming to Canada with the visas we gave them.

The more the better.

emo72

friends and family gone away. its horrific. i miss them terribly.

orangesoda

None of mine emmigrated.

I don't go on facebook anymore due to all the people rhyming on about Australia, they can get eaten by a kangaroo for all i care

GenieOz

orangesoda wrote: »

None of mine emmigrated.

I don't go on facebook anymore due to all the people rhyming on about Australia, they can get eaten by a kangaroo for all i care

You sound awful bitter about their happiness.

orangesoda

GenieOz wrote: »

You sound awful bitter about their happiness.

I'm a bitter auld heure surely. Them and their selfies on the beach

major bill

GenieOz wrote: »

You sound awful bitter about their happiness.

It's true alot of the happiness is bordeline snobbery towards the place they came from.

I am happy for people enjoying life but stop posting vids and pics of how great Australia is cause people back home couldn't give a ****.

Anyway I love Australia they have taken half the scrotes out of the country

hfallada

I hate the whole BS of "its dreadful they are in Australia, several thousand miles away from home". But if we actually learnt European languages in school that were of use eg German. Irish people could get jobs in Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and most of Switzerland, since unemployment is only 4.5% in those countries.

syklops

Oranage2 wrote: »

I've also left a decent job in Ireland and moved abroad. I'm much happier than I was in Ireland, I do miss seeing my family and friends though, but Ireland has very little going for it, work Monday to Friday, get smashed on the weekend and post on Facebook how great your life is.

He posts to boards on a Saturday night.

bodice ripper

Given that there's a few here singing the praises of having emigrated, I feel I have to say I miss Ireland terribly. Ireland has lots going for it, and when I move back I won't be quick to leave again.

Oranage2

syklops wrote: »

He posts to boards on a Saturday night.

Or Sunday morning where I am

MRnotlob606

so strange we might have relatives in the future with australain accents

crockholm

It's kinda funny the way you see Ireland depicted here on these threads,using Angelas Ashes to try and fertilize all our spuds who are dying in the famine.

I'm from rural Ireland (well technically the greater Metropolitan area of a Town of 2500) and honestly haven't seen the whispering and curtain-twitching green eyed natives.I saw people who believed that thanks to the boom,their friends and family would Always be Close,to a degree, and any emigration would be a personal choice.

Alas.
I only left Ireland because there was no work,other than that,I would never have moved.And now I have picked up a family in my exile.

I miss Ireland,it's my home,and I would love to go back. Unfortunately,it would appear that herself is a homebird and not as keen on moving as I had hoped.

Antar Bolaeisk

I'm glad to be working abroad, it's a new experience and something different for a bit, there's no need to be couped up in Ireland for one's entire life. I'll move home eventually but not yet.

I wasn't forced to move either, I had a job that was paying the bills with enough left over for me to be comfortable, I quit that to come out here.

lisasimpson

one thing ive notice is that I know a good few that are mad to move home . they are gone 4 or 5 years at this stage and some of them have moved back in the last year but its a slow process that doesn't happen over night. Yes there are great opportunities abroad as one of my friends in Canada said she is getting to work in an area she always wanted to but the opportunities are very limited and competitive in Ireland. She is hoping it will stand to her when she moves back in the next year or two. It can be very benefical for a persons development to move away for a while. I do feel really sorry for the people who had no choice but to leave. I hate the tears at Christmas time when loved ones have to go back.

One thing that kindof annoys me is the whole attitude Ireland has nothing going for it why stay that some people have. fair enough we are not certain to get fabulous summers like last year. But apart from having family and friends here, there is more to do than working during the week and getting pissed at the weekend. Just have to get up and make things happen

also one thing you don't hear to often about Australia is how expensive is has gotten esp around Perth

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

crockholm wrote: »

It's kinda funny the way you see Ireland depicted here on these threads,using Angelas Ashes to try and fertilize all our spuds who are dying in the famine.

Eh?? Where?

Daveysil15

lisasimpson wrote: »

One thing that kindof annoys me is the whole attitude Ireland has nothing going for it why stay that some people have. fair enough we are not certain to get fabulous summers like last year. But apart from having family and friends here, there is more to do than working during the week and getting pissed at the weekend. Just have to get up and make things happen

True, but for some people there wouldn't be a whole lot else to do. It's difficult when your friends are big drinkers and are not interested in the things you like. It's the main reason why I emigrated nearly 10 years ago. I was sick of the drinking culture. Although in fairness I think there is a lot more to do in Ireland now compared to a decade ago. In my area now there is a bowling alley, photography club, a decent gym and other stuff I like that just wasn't there before I emigrated. Plus there isn't that same peer pressure now to go out an get wasted like there was when I was in my late teens and early 20's. Whenever I go out now its just for a few drinks to catch up with mates. None of us get plastered and its more enjoyable.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Daveysil15 wrote: »

True, but for some people there wouldn't be a whole lot else to do. It's difficult when your friends are big drinkers and are not interested in the things you like. It's the main reason why I emigrated nearly 10 years ago. I was sick of the drinking culture. Although in fairness I think there is a lot more to do in Ireland now compared to a decade ago. In my area now there is a bowling alley, photography club, a decent gym and other stuff I like that just wasn't there before I emigrated. Plus there isn't that same peer pressure now to go out an get wasted like there was when I was in my late teens and early 20's. Whenever I go out now its just for a few drinks to catch up with mates. None of us get plastered and its more enjoyable.

Had the same, but the probelm is there was no point in having these faciliities because people still just want to go drinking.

I think the later part of your post is that people simply got older and have more responsibilities - family, career, and so on. But it was (and still is judging by my recent trips home) hard to convince people that there are other things to do out there.

mandrake04

I been in Australia 10 years, I went because I wanted to and stayed because I simply like the lifestyle it's able to provide is absolutely fantastic. I think it's a great place but it's not for everyone, there are varying degrees of success to the whole Australia thing and not every Irish is making 6 figures and living the dream.

lisasimpson

true it can be hard to get people to do other things apart from the weekend on the piss. it often young people with no responsibilities that moan theres nothing to do country has nothing going for it. nowadays we have more opportunities to do things than years gone by, ie surfing has grown along the coast along with coastenerring , loads of music festivals in the summer, more spas, places doing afternoon tea etc for those not into sport( keep an eye on groupon etc for deals) its a case of taking a little bit of time to find things to do, even for those left behind and haven't emmigarated its an opportunity to break boundaries and open yourself to new people and new experiences in ireland. also there has been a rise in the use of meetup.com a good way of meeting new people with activities etc organised. I do miss my friends that have left but it also made me more of a person as it made me more outgoing and I made new friend I probably wouldn't have met otherwise

Pumpkinseeds

There's a tendency in the media to portray all emigrants as being depressed at living abroad, away from friends and family. Every Christmas when I see coverage on the news of emigrants going back to their new homes, it reminds me of how happy I was to be getting out again after a short visit back here. I fricking loved getting out of here.

Can't wait to get the Hell away from this sh*t hole depressing country. Sorry I ever came back. OP, just go and join them, enjoy life to the max away from this parochial tedious little island.

Daveysil15

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Had the same, but the probelm is there was no point in having these faciliities because people still just want to go drinking.

I think the later part of your post is that people simply got older and have more responsibilities - family, career, and so on. But it was (and still is judging by my recent trips home) hard to convince people that there are other things to do out there.

Well that's a good point I suppose. It's trying to find someone to go with. Either that or they'll incorporate the drink into it somehow. I remember years ago we organised a bowling night out in work, but a lot of them were fairly tipsy before they even showed up, and then they'd have to finish the night off with a few drinks too.

What you say about people having more responsibilities as they get older is true, but its not like any of my mates have kids or mortgages or anything like that, but people tend to mature as they get older and generally don't drink as much, (or can't drink as much) as they did in their youth. That seems to be the case anyway if the, "how much can you drink?" thread is anything to go by.

lisasimpson

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Well that's a good point I suppose. It's trying to find someone to go with. Either that or they'll incorporate the drink into it somehow. I remember years ago we organised a bowling night out in work, but a lot of them were fairly tipsy before they even showed up, and then they'd have to finish the night off with a few drinks too.

What you say about people having more responsibilities as they get older is true, but its not like any of my mates have kids or mortgages or anything like that, but people tend to mature as they get older and generally don't drink as much, (or can't drink as much) as they did in their youth. That seems to be the case anyway if the, "how much can you drink?" thread is anything to go by.

True my housemate gave up drinking over a year ago and is still well able to go on a night out clubbing and all and enjoy herself. I don't drink every night I go out either. im kindof over the whole been hungover every weekend. the money I spare on nights out not drinking, I put towards a holiday weekend away etc

Amirani

hfallada wrote: »

I hate the whole BS of "its dreadful they are in Australia, several thousand miles away from home". But if we actually learnt European languages in school that were of use eg German. Irish people could get jobs in Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and most of Switzerland, since unemployment is only 4.5% in those countries.

Foreign language teaching in schools doesn't work. Tiny percentages of people become in any way fluent after studying languages in school, and that's not an Irish problem, it's the same in other English speaking countries.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Well that's a good point I suppose. It's trying to find someone to go with. Either that or they'll incorporate the drink into it somehow. I remember years ago we organised a bowling night out in work, but a lot of them were fairly tipsy before they even showed up, and then they'd have to finish the night off with a few drinks too.

Or, you get three people for the bowling and about twenty joining you in the pub afterwards, so while you want one to round the night off, they're just starting.

What you say about people having more responsibilities as they get older is true, but its not like any of my mates have kids or mortgages or anything like that, but people tend to mature as they get older and generally don't drink as much, (or can't drink as much) as they did in their youth. That seems to be the case anyway if the, "how much can you drink?" thread is anything to go by.

True, but I've noticed myt friends dont go out as much. House parties seem to take over a bit more, or even just having friends over to watch a match, movie or whatever.

Oranage2

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Well that's a good point I suppose. It's trying to find someone to go with. Either that or they'll incorporate the drink into it somehow. I remember years ago we organised a bowling night out in work, but a lot of them were fairly tipsy before they even showed up, and then they'd have to finish the night off with a few drinks too.

What you say about people having more responsibilities as they get older is true, but its not like any of my mates have kids or mortgages or anything like that, but people tend to mature as they get older and generally don't drink as much, (or can't drink as much) as they did in their youth. That seems to be the case anyway if the, "how much can you drink?" thread is anything to go by.

I just gave a quick Google and the price of bowling was 7 quid a game per person :eek: you're going to find it hard to get any beginner to fork over that much for something they might not like or be any good at. Bowling was something I never really considered back home but I do it twice a week now.

Daveysil15

Oranage2 wrote: »

I just gave a quick Google and the price of bowling was 7 quid a game per person :eek: you're going to find it hard to get any beginner to fork over that much for something they might not like or be any good at. Bowling was something I never really considered back home but I do it twice a week now.

7 quid is nothing compared to what you'd spend on drink on a night out. That barely covers a pint.

Oranage2

Daveysil15 wrote: »

7 quid is nothing compared to what you'd spend on drink on a night out. That barely covers a pint.

Well maybe closer to two pint ,but I get your point. But for the most part, Irish mentality is that nothing is funner than getting lit.

I didn't really realize this till I moved away.

I'm not saying Ireland is a bleak hell hole, but I live a better and more enjoyable life outside it

IIITIII

QUOTEPrincess Consuela Bananahammock First of all, my people...? I have to say this is disgusting if you can't say my people. Blacks say this, Arabs say this but o no Irish can't say this but why?, stop been so anti-Irish, Irish are a unique & distinct group of people & are as much entitled as any other group on this planet to express it. Why do you have an issue with my people?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

IIITIII wrote: »

QUOTEPrincess Consuela Bananahammock First of all, my people...? I have to say this is disgusting if you can't say my people. Blacks say this, Arabs say this but o no Irish can't say this but why?, stop been so anti-Irish, Irish are a unique & distinct group of people & are as much entitled as any other group on this planet to express it. Why do you have an issue with my people?

Firstly, I didn't say it. Secondly, it was clarified as a typo by the OP.

homeless student

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well maybe closer to two pint ,but I get your point. But for the most part, Irish mentality is that nothing is funner than getting lit.

I didn't really realize this till I moved away.

I'm not saying Ireland is a bleak hell hole, but I live a better and more enjoyable life outside it

no one gives a toss about your life:rolleyes:

In answer to the OPs question.....

I miss my daughter madly! She's only on a working holiday visa but she is taking the steps to stay for a lot longer. She works hard, goes out Saturday nights like any other 21 year old and spends Sundays at the beach or taking a trip somewhere for the day.

She's in Australia and I wish she had chosen Europe or USA as I could book a flight to see her within a few days. Australia takes a lot more planning and money. Thank you, inventor of Skype!

Even though I would rather she was home, I do understand that she is learning more about life being away and I am proud of what she is achieving.

BBJBIG

Until something is done about the socialised Debts (especially the Banking Debts) of Private Business foisted on the backs of the people, I'm afraid we are going to be having this "Emmigration" discussion over and over again - for a very long time.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

homeless student wrote: »

no one gives a toss about your life:rolleyes:

This kinda attitude is something is another reason, tbh.

iamstop

I was about 2 years unemployed after getting my degree in Mech Eng as a mature student. Did an online diploma in Pharma Manufacturing also didn't help. Finally at a jobs fair in the RDS. I now live in one of the coldest cities in the world. Winnipeg.
This past winter was especially brutal. Worst in over a hundred years they say.
There are some great things about Canada, the winters are not one of them.

Adamantium

iamstop wrote: »

I now live in one of the coldest cities in the world. Winnipeg.
This past winter was especially brutal. Worst in over a hundred years they say.
There are some great things about Canada, the winters are not one of them.

So there was no Cape Canaverel for you, was there?

keith16

LizzieJones wrote: »

I hear a whole lot of Irish folks are coming to Canada with the visas we gave them.

The more the better.

I was in Toronto a few weeks ago, cracking town, beer and women and a good work ethic over there too.

Go Leafs!

That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

In answer to the OPs question.....

I miss my daughter madly! She's only on a working holiday visa but she is taking the steps to stay for a lot longer. She works hard, goes out Saturday nights like any other 21 year old and spends Sundays at the beach or taking a trip somewhere for the day.

She's in Australia and I wish she had chosen Europe or USA as I could book a flight to see her within a few days. Australia takes a lot more planning and money. Thank you, inventor of Skype!

Even though I would rather she was home, I do understand that she is learning more about life being away and I am proud of what she is achieving.

I feel for you and others who have family abroad and are settling down. Skype isn't the same as holding and hugging the first newborn grandchild or niece or nephew.