Plans to introduce congestion charge in Dublin...

Sobanek

CALLS have been made for motorists in Dublin to pay a congestion charge to ease peak time traffic snarls.

The National Transport Authority (NTA) said that unless a road usage charge is introduced before 2020, the Government will be unable to meet its stated target of reducing car commuting levels to 45pc of all journeys.

http://m.independent.ie/top-stories/motorists-must-pay-congestion-charge-to-ease-chaos-nta-30180421.html


Yer another way to make money off us!!

Supergurrier

Bet they try and charge it in places in the middle of nowhere

"Shurre if the other crowd are doin it for London we can do it for rural Leitrim"

YbFocus

Nein Nein Nein Nein Nein!

Sobanek

I think it's a stupid idea to pay for such an awful service.
The amount of massive potholes I encounter on my commute to and from work - Newbridge -> N7 -> M50 -> N4 -> Dublin City Centre is just down right ridiculous.

Increasing the amount of buses, trains and making them affordable would be a good idea.
14.90 single journey on the train to heuston, I pay 11 quid in fuel to do that same journey...

BMJD

that's what happens when you create commuters instead of allowing them to live closer to where they work (i.e. high-er rise city dwellings)

do they think people sit in their cars for hours every day for fun?

so, the NTA can **** right off

robertxxx

I bet Leo the lion is involved in this somewhere.

ba_barabus

robertxxx wrote: »

I bet Leo the lion is involved in this somewhere.

Leo originally said no to it two years and has reiterated his position this evening.

It appears he is not involved unless someone can provide factual evidence which says otherwise.

I reckon its really a case of someone talking shyte.

randy hickey

Just had a look at the NTA's own website there, and I can't see any mention of this - I reckon it's a load of oul sh1te.

You've got to take into account the paper whose website the story is on - just take a look at the (non) story on the same website about the Aer Lingus flight that had to divert to Valencia.

jackofalltrades

Must be the weekend for putting out new/re-hashed ways of screwing over Dublin motorists.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/nra-proposes-additional-tolls-for-m50-1.1759590

Under the multi-point, peak-pricing plan, the cost to motorists of using the M50 would rise from €2.10 to €2.60 at present, to €6 or €7 at peak times; €4.50 or €5.50 at inter-peak periods; and €2 to €3 at off-peak times.

In fairness to Leo he has rejected all of these suggestions.

Chris_Heilong

The more charges these monkeys introduce the more our standard of living drops, its not like our wages are going up. Environmentalism has become one of the biggest annoyances, its like vegetarianism....whats the point.:mad:

650Ginge

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

The more charges these monkeys introduce the more our standard of living drops, its not like our wages are going up. Environmentalism has become one of the biggest annoyances, its like vegetarianism....whats the point.:mad:

Ignoramus, vegetarians live on average 8 years longer and have considerably less serious illness. Farming in Ireland create 40% of the total co2 not to mention the methane. Much more than private transport.

I think that the congestion charge if applied correctly could be beneficial to the majority. I see people currently driving from castleknock and rathfarnam, some I'm sure are making been shorter journeys. I also think the question about planning is well made as is the quality and affordability of public transport. A bus from my house is meath to Dublin city centre is €16.90 day return, I current do than same journey for €7-8. And there is two of us in the car.

I'm sure the retail lobby will kill this. Hard enough to stop people just driving to blanch or dundrum etc.

All that said Dublin traffic isn't actually that bad in the mani.

Celly Smunt

So raise the toll and push all trafficbinto the cities.This eradicates the demand/need for for the M50.

Introduce congestion charge and push the city's traffic onto the motorway.This overloads the M50 causing more congestion.

Its a non runner, it won't happen and I'm pretty sure no transport minister will implement such a polotical time bomb.

Marcusm

Is this about multi point tolling on the m50 or a congestion charge London style to cover, for example, all roads within the canals (through CCTV)?

I think multi point tolling on the m50 (and indeed all motorways) would be a good idea. I've experienced it in Portugal - video gantries every 10kms or so with tolls as low as 50c. The m50 charge (it's no longer really for the Westlink bridges) should be spread across the m50 for equality of treatment if nothing else. I don't think they should introduce multiple 3€ tolls but evening it across. Like the m25 in the Uk it wasn't designed for people entering at 5 and getting off at 6 but that is happening and the junctions aren't suitable/coping at periods of stress.

The NTA report was a condition of the planning consent for the m50 widening.

Mikros

In my ideal world there would be some sort of congestion charge to discourage the large % of drivers who travel a distance less than 5km by car into work through the city centre. Having huge amounts of traffic going through the heart of the city is a negative thing in my mind. Of course in my ideal world there would be a properly functioning public transport system with suitable and affordable park and ride and connecting links.

In reality it will take years to start to fix the disaster that was spatial planning in the last 10 years during the boom -and I think when the economy does get back to full swing you will really see the damage that has been done. Talk of congestion charges is far too premature.

macplaxton

CALLS have been made for motorists in Dublin to pay a congestion charge to ease peak time traffic snarls.

That sort of headline is sooo last century.

This is 2014, here's what it should read to be contemporary:

CALLS have been made for motorists in Dublin to pay a congestion charge an emissions charge to ease peak time traffic snarls. improve air quality in the city.

LEZs are the new CCs. Watch out.

CiniO

macplaxton wrote: »

That sort of headline is sooo last century.

This is 2014, here's what it should read to be contemporary:



LEZs are the new CCs. Watch out.

This is all nonsense anyway.

Why introduce another tax, making city accessible by car only to richer part of society?

If it was to be really about environment, then they could do like Germany - just not let unenvironmental cars into the cities.

And just to clarify - unenvironmental doesn't mean low CO2 emission car (diesels in particular), becuase CO2 gas is not poisonous to people.

In Germany, you can't drive into the city if you have 2004 small diesel, but you can if you have mid 90's petrol car - guess why?
Because 90's petrol car makes less harm to air pollution than 04 diesel.
Pity Irish government doesn't understand it when setting motor tax rates.

Chris_Heilong

650Ginge wrote: »

Ignoramus, vegetarians live on average 8 years longer and have considerably less serious illness. Farming in Ireland create 40% of the total co2 not to mention the methane. Much more than private transport.

I think that the congestion charge if applied correctly could be beneficial to

You want to be careful of that kind of talk, its against the charter and can get you banned, you attack the post, not the poster.

My comment was meant in jest, but in saying that the majority of people are omnivores as such vegetarianism is very much an alternate lifestyle, and then what degree of vegetarian are you and whos rules are you going to follow, Opinion not fact and it does not have to be.;)

Andrew_Doran

Congestion charging works in London because it has the one of the best public transport systems in the world, and proportionally far more people have no need to own a car. Public transport in Dublin sucks in comparison.

London:

Billions of pounds in investment every year
366 train stations
270 tube stations
40 Docklands Light Railway stations
24 hour bus services
River boats
Cabs everywhere
One ticket that you can use everywhere