pheasant hunting

springer man

Quick question , almost common sense but a few people in my area disagree with me.
Isnt it wrong to work dogs at this time of the year due to hens being with young clutches? if dogs are flushing or setting/pointing the hens who have to move from the spot leaving eggs or clutches behind , that can not be good for the raising of the pheasants surely?

fiestaman

Jesus theres always Dopes somewhere.

dodderangler

Hen gets flushed and won't return. her young will die!
No ifs or buts about it. They'll die.
It's a ridiculous thing to do.
When Are people gonna learn. These people will probably blame foxes for eaten all the pheasants then aswell come start of season.
I won't bring my dog out till at least September.

springer man

dodderangler wrote: »

Hen gets flushed and won't return. her young will die!
No ifs or buts about it. They'll die.
It's a ridiculous thing to do.
When Are people gonna learn. These people will probably blame foxes for eaten all the pheasants then aswell come start of season.
I won't bring my dog out till at least September.

Exactly , people in my club were trying to say its no harm.

Tawny Owl

springer man wrote: »

Exactly , people in my club were trying to say its no harm.

All lads in our Club are not allowed run Dogs on Club grounds till the season starts.

TriggerPL

Your going to have this come up from time to time . Now I don't know about with dogs and probally would cause a problem , but years ago I got a call from my dad to come to the farm to help him with something or other and when we were finished , he said he had a pheasants nest to show me , as we walked up , up got two hens .

Turns out he had rose them twice before that in 3 days where the first time he didn know they were there and second time he plain forgot . Would be an interesting experiment tho at some stage .

I for one tend to run the dogs at the lakes and local gaa pitch this time of year .

Tawny Owl

And not on Gun shooting Land, am I right here.

TriggerPL

Tawny Owl wrote: »

And not on Gun shooting Land, am I right here.

Was that aimed at me , I hunt our own lands about 5 or 6 time during the season , rarely shoot pheasants , they don't interest me , woodcock and snipe more so .

Tawny Owl

TriggerPL wrote: »

Was that aimed at me , I hunt our own lands about 5 or 6 time during the season , rarely shoot pheasants , they don't interest me , woodcock and snipe more so .

Yeah and what you said was, you dont run your dog / dogs on Club land durning breeding season, thats what the OP was asking, you run them else where.

TriggerPL

Ah yea I get you now , yea I grew up never to run dogs on ground that you know holds pheasants around the breeding season , so I would never risk it ,

But have seen them first had come back to the eggs after being frightened off them a human .

But if ya can avoid it then why would you run your dogs on pheasant ground during breeding

shotie

i wouldnt have a problem with lads giveing the dogs a run to keep them in shape but i wouldnt work them till later in the season

meathstevie

springer man wrote: »

Exactly , people in my club were trying to say its no harm.

Those people are fools. I would even argue that people who run their dogs now on land that holds any nests are committing wildlife offences. The first being interfering with the nests of protected wild birds and the second hunting during the closed season.

And yes, a hen that gets a proper fright will abandon a nest.

dodderangler

shotie wrote: »

i wouldnt have a problem with lads giveing the dogs a run to keep them in shape but i wouldnt work them till later in the season

But sure if you want to keep them in shape then bring them on a walk to park or something.

shotie

dodderangler wrote: »

But sure if you want to keep them in shape then bring them on a walk to park or something.

im only talking about giving them a quick half hour run. have no need to go to a park to run my dogs when i can let them out of there kennels and give them a quick run out the back field