Man charged

Gheebag

Seamus Daly charged with the atrocity.

The_Valeyard

Bit of context please OP.

Googled it:

This is about the Omagh bombing.

Gheebag

Gheebag wrote: »

Seamus Daly charged with the atrocity.

In Omagh

TeddyTedson

Was expecting to see three fiddy in the OP

Mint Sauce

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Bit of context please OP.

Googled it:

This is about the Omagh bombing.

Meant to post this earlier. He was charged following a Civil Case against him, and I think also a BBC Investigation, in court tomorrow I believe. Shocking how long its taken for someone to face a court of law on this. Hopefully the families get the answers and closure they have desperately sought all this time.

rob316

A horrific attack it was on innocent people, some has to be brought to justice for it.

Gheebag

Yes ,charged with the bombing and other terrorist offences.Just saw it on sky news .

keith16

Gheebag wrote: »

Yes ,charged with the bombing and other terrorist offences.Just saw it on sky news .

How did it take you a thread title and three posts to give one coherent message?

Hopefully whoever committed this horrible act will be brought to justice.

meoklmrk91

In all my time in boards that has to be the vaguest thread title and post I have ever seen. A fecking link wouldn't go astray like.

On topic, I remember when Omagh happened, I was very young but remember all the news coverage well, one of those things that couldn't but stay in your memory, remember where i was and all when we heard about it, never thoughtthey would get anyone for it, hopefully it can bring some semblance of peace to the many families that were torn by such a needless tragedy.

Artful_Badger

Can atrocities be used to charge phones or just men ?

--LOS--

I'm confused, is this about the Omagh bombing in Omagh or.....

Mint Sauce

--LOS-- wrote: »

I'm confused, is this about the Omagh bombing in Omagh or.....

Yes, unfortunately the OP failed to mention this in his title or his post.

Sorry OP.

JillyQ

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

In all my time in boards that has to be the vaguest thread title and post I have ever seen. A fecking link wouldn't go astray like.

On topic, I remember when Omagh happened, I was very young but remember all the news coverage well, one of those things that couldn't but stay in your memory, remember where i was and all when we heard about it, never thoughtthey would get anyone for it, hopefully it can bring some semblance of peace to the many families that were torn by such a needless tragedy.

I think people in this country remember where they were when they heard about this bombing. I hope the families will get some sort of justice.

ballsymchugh

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Meant to post this earlier. He was charged following a Civil Case against him, and I think also a BBC Investigation, in court tomorrow I believe. Shocking how long its taken for someone to face a court of law on this. Hopefully the families get the answers and closure they have desperately sought all this time.

from what i heard on bbc radio earlier, he lived in monaghan and never went north of the border (which i find hard to believe) but the police north of the border just waited for their chance.

kupus

hope he gets life

beks101

I'll never forget an interview on the Late Late a year after Omagh with a man who had lost his wife, pregnant daughter and grand-daughter when the bomb went off.

I would've been young enough at the time but can still remember his face as if it was yesterday. His ashen, broken face.

I hope the victims and their families finally get justice

The Backwards Man

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/omagh/dead.html

The Omagh bombers make me physically sick.

meoklmrk91

kupus wrote: »

hope he gets life

If he is guilty I couldn't imagine he will get any less.

StephenHendry

i hope they have sufficient evidence against him, 16yrs on and one person to date has been charged , there were so many involved in that atrocity

Son Of A Vidic

Gheebag wrote: »

Yes ,charged with the bombing and other terrorist offences.Just saw it on sky news .

You are registered since January, so that's plenty enough time for you to have developed a bit of cop on when starting a thread. You start a story on a news topic - you link us to that topic.

Plazaman

StephenHendry wrote: »

i hope they have sufficient evidence against him, 16yrs on and one person to date has been charged , there were so many involved in that atrocity

A judge has already ruled him responsible for the attck in a civil case taken by the families in 2009 so I'm assuming if they had sufficient evidence to prove he was guilty then, the same should apply here.

Suppose they thought they were great upstanding republicans when they killed those people at least 10 of them who were kids enjoying a day out in the town and didn't give two shíts about the politics of the North. If ever there was a case to bring back hanging.

StephenHendry

Plazaman wrote: »

A judge has already ruled him responsible for the attck in a civil case taken by the families in 2009 so I'm assuming if they had sufficient evidence to prove he was guilty then, the same should apply here.

Suppose they thought they were great upstanding republicans when they killed those people at least 10 of them who were kids enjoying a day out in the town and didn't give two shíts about the politics of the North. If ever there was a case to bring back hanging.

the only reason i say this is that afaik they charged someone about 10yrs and there wasn't enough evidence to charge him , i though the only chance here for the victims was a civil action against those responsible , maybe they have already gone down this route ?

Fratton Fred

Plazaman wrote: »

A judge has already ruled him responsible for the attck in a civil case taken by the families in 2009 so I'm assuming if they had sufficient evidence to prove he was guilty then, the same should apply here.

Suppose they thought they were great upstanding republicans when they killed those people at least 10 of them who were kids enjoying a day out in the town and didn't give two shíts about the politics of the North. If ever there was a case to bring back hanging.

And make them martyrs that the patriots can erect a monument to?

No, they should be locked up and used as an albino psychopath's bitch.

Uriel.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/omagh/dead.html

The Omagh bombers make me physically sick.

f**king hell that quote from the mother of victim James Barker

To see him lying there with half of his head gone and those beautiful green eyes looking out at me as if he was waiting for me was devastating. I never realised how green his eyes were. That image will stay with me for the rest of my life

I can't even begin to imagine how you could possibly deal with a situation like that. Terrible.

kfallon

beks101 wrote: »

I hope the victims and their families finally get justice

For what happened to them that terrible day they will never get justice! It may be a small crumb of comfort to them but the anguish will forever be with them.

The most vile act this island has ever seen!

whiskeyman

kupus wrote: »

hope he gets life

Will he though?
How does it work with the Good Friday agreement?
Can he avail of early release if so, or are all sentences after it exempt?

Fratton Fred

whiskeyman wrote: »

Will he though?
How does it work with the Good Friday agreement?
Can he avail of early release if so, or are all sentences after it exempt?

It was after the ceasefire, so they will receive no exemption.

Sunglasses Ron

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It was after the ceasefire, so they will receive no exemption.

What happens in the likes of the recent Ivor Bell arrest for a crime committed during the period? If he is convicted, will he be released within three odd years as per those convicted in the last months of the Troubles?

FTA69

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

What happens in the likes of the recent Ivor Bell arrest for a crime committed during the period? If he is convicted, will he be released within three odd years as per those convicted in the last months of the Troubles?

If someone get convicted of a political offense that took place before the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, the maximum they can serve is two years. They will then be released "on license". This only applies if that person was a member of an organisation currently on ceasefire (or disbanded) i.e. the Provisional IRA and the INLA.

So if Bell or anyone else gets convicted for something that happened in the 1970s he'd be let out within two years.

Sunglasses Ron

FTA69 wrote: »

If someone get convicted of a political offense that took place before the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, the maximum they can serve is two years. They will then be released "on license". This only applies if that person was a member of an organisation currently on ceasefire (or disbanded) i.e. the Provisional IRA and the INLA.

So if Bell or anyone else gets convicted for something that happened in the 1970s he'd be let out within two years.

While there is the issue of family closure and all that....two years....this Cold Case unit and its cases sound like an awful waste of time, money and manpower that could be concentrated on present day crimes.

With all due respect I would not feel a great deal of satisfaction if after 30 years some UVF man got sent down for killing my relative for twice the amount of time as some lad who burgled my house the year before. The South African Truth commission proposals bandied about many years ago seem an altogether better idea. Any paramilitary who committed a crime in the 70's ad 80's probably served a few years at some point in the years after for other offences- most of them could do two years (or more likely, one year with usual remission) fairly easily.

One also has to wonder if the Cold Case Unit picks and chooses their prosecutions. I don't think the N Irish authorities would ever be keen on the idea of bringing Johnny Adair back to their prison system to cause trouble inside and out for a paltry two years.

Will this rule apply to any possible Bloody Sunday prosecutions? Or sectarian offences committed by non sworn civilians (for example, people involved in the beating of the two soldiers at the Belfast funeral who were not sworn IRA members)

Plazaman

Fratton Fred wrote: »

And make them martyrs that the patriots can erect a monument to?

No, they should be locked up and used as an albino psychopath's bitch.

Ya, that'd do the job as well I s'pose.

I was all ready to make a joke about how the other guy got let off (reference to old Tommy Cooper joke). This is why threads need to be more detailed.

I was around 11 or 12 at the time and had been competing in the All-Ireland cycling finals in Newtownards, Co. Down. It wasn't until the next day that I and my mother heard about the bombing itself and I remember just how shocked we all were. It was an absolutely disgusting attack.

FTA69

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

While there is the issue of family closure and all that....two years....this Cold Case unit and its cases sound like an awful waste of time, money and manpower that could be concentrated on present day crimes.

It's a joke, for the simple fact that the RUC were up to their necks in illegal killings as well as colluding with Loyalist paramilitaries to murder the people they were allegedly supposed to be protecting. And now we're supposed to believe that they are some morally superior force in a moral position to decide who is guilty and who isn't? It's a pile of b*llocks.

The South African Truth commission proposals bandied about many years ago seem an altogether better idea.

It'll never happen because it's in nobody's interest for it to happen. Do you think Gerry Adams is going to admit being in the IRA at such a commission? Admit he was a liar for years when he's building a party in the south? Do you think the British government is going to admit facilitating death squads that murdered their own citizens? Not a hope. Sadly we'll never know half of what went on in Ireland.

Will this rule apply to any possible Bloody Sunday prosecutions? Or sectarian offences committed by non sworn civilians (for example, people involved in the beating of the two soldiers at the Belfast funeral who were not sworn IRA members)

Considering only one British soldier has been convicted of murder since World War 2 I wouldn't hold my breath. The Brits had pretty much carte blanche in this country and they won't be held to account for much of what they did.