pernament stone shrine.

jimini0

I hope this is the right forum. If not can you please move.
I live in a rural area in a semi detached block of 4 houses/apartments.my neighbours at the other end of the building are very holy. They are in the process of starting to build a stone shrine at the front of their house.its going to be 7ft high and 4 ft wide. Our houses are about 25 metres from the road with small gardens then a wall then a parking area. They intend on building this shrine just outside the wall..we are trying to be good neighbours and not stop them building something but that is was too big. I have said it to the husband about it being too big but he said the other neighbours don't mind.
Is there any restriction on building holy shrines on private/public property? Or even building one full stop? Any help with the legal side of things will help me stop them. Building it so big

Pro Hoc Vice

Regulations on planning exist in relation to shrines, best to talk to a solicitor.

jimini0

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Regulations on planning exist in relation to shrines, best to talk to a solicitor.

Can you point me in the direction to find these regulations?
I don't want to go down the legal route I just want advice on how to approach them about it.
If I get my solicitor involved there will be a huge falling out with my neighbours.

Five Lamps

Despite living in a rural area, you say that it's apartments/semi D's? Is there a management company or are the roads taken in hand by the council?

I would report them to the council. If this thing gets popular you'll have parking issues as holy joes arrive in. Also the shrine may block line of sight and become an safety issue.

Pass it to the council as an authorised development. Depending on the road the NRA may also be interested.

coylemj

Five Lamps wrote: »

I would report them to the council. If this thing gets popular you'll have parking issues as holy joes arrive in.

+1 This type of edifice usually results in at least one scheduled public rosary a week and there will be an invasion with cars from far and wide that you won't be able to do anything about plus they won't tolerate kids kicking a ball about the place when they're praying for your souls!

Point that out to your neighbours who are shrugging their shoulders with the attitude of 'sure what harm will it do?'

jimini0

Five Lamps wrote: »

Despite living in a rural area, you say that it's apartments/semi D's? Is there a management company or are the roads taken in hand by the council?

I would report them to the council. If this thing gets popular you'll have parking issues as holy joes arrive in. Also the shrine may block line of sight and become an safety issue.

Pass it to the council as an authorised development. Depending on the road the NRA may also be interested.

The houses are privately owned. One is owned by a man who lives away he rang me earlier today wondering what we can do to stop it. I'll tell him all your advices and we will plan our attack from there

jimini0

coylemj wrote: »

+1 This type of edifice usually results in at least one scheduled public rosary a week and there will be an invasion with cars from far and wide that you won't be able to do anything about plus they won't tolerate kids kicking a ball about the place when they're praying for your souls!

Point that out to your neighbours who are shrugging their shoulders with the attitude of 'sure what harm will it do?'

They have prayer meetings in the house once a month. Cars parked badly all over the place. We have a driveway up to our house and they block the drive. I'll just point out all these things and if no good think I will have to go to the council

Manach

Pesky religious types and their prayer meetings. Perhaps with luck they might get the message they are not wanted and you might get a proper neighbour - perhaps a heavy metal fan.

coylemj

jimini0 wrote: »

They have prayer meetings in the house once a month. Cars parked badly all over the place. We have a driveway up to our house and they block the drive.

So they have form even before they build anything outdoors, that should tell you what's going to happen if they build this 'shrine'.

What they're proposing will only encourage them to have outdoor prayer meetings for bigger groups and the parking and congestion will get much worse.

You really need to nip this in the bud because if they build anything, chances are that they will add to it over time and before you know it, you will have a constant stream of holy joes calling in 365 days of the year.

Pat Mustard

jimini0 wrote: »

If I get my solicitor involved there will be a huge falling out with my neighbours.

Your neighbour plans to construct a 7ft religious statue in his front garden. When you pointed out the problem, he said that others said it was grand. Of course they said it was grand. They aren't next to it. They nodded and smiled at the man who wants to build the new Christo Redentor.

If you think things are bad with the cars parked for the prayer meeting, wait until Halloween comes around.

If there was a moment to give your neighbour a piece of your mind, now would be a good time to consider it.



The one in Rio looks pretty cool though.

Wheelnut

This comes under the Planning and Development Act 2000. I seem to remember a table of exempted developments near the end of the Act in its paper form but I can not find it on irishstatutebook.ie. There is an exemption for roadside shrines but I think 7 feet high is bigger than permitted. The exemption was really for memorial shrines for traffic accident victims.

jimini0

They are lovely neighbours in general. Very helpful and generous A few weeks ago they arrived over to us with a outdoor car and slide for our son. Their boy had out grown them. So I don't want to fall out with them. I just want them to reduce the size of the shrine. I have nothing against holy people, my wife is very religious. She even thinks its crazy what the are planning but we are just afraid it will attract the shrine tourist. I will just point out our concerns to them and hopefully they will rethink it.
If they don't I can point out the regulations to them. That's why I asked on here about the laws of these structures.
Thanks all for your help and advice