Where to get fencing endpoles

farmerjj

I,m look 2put up some fences soon,and want 2get some sleepers for the end poles anyone know of any place in cork selling them at a resemble price??

49801

Why sleepers?... When you can knock in treated strainers

freedominacup

49801 wrote: »

Why sleepers?... When you can knock in treated strainers

Because they will last far longer than any treated stake you will ever buy. The only thing I have that comes close to them for staying power are a few three inch square oak stakes the last of which are still standing after almost thirty years. The sleepers the oul boy put down 40 years ago are still there. I've replaced every stake that I've ever put up regardless of what treatment they were subjected to.

Markcheese

Try looking on done deal .. ?
Dairygold had them for about 25 each if you took so many ,(can't remember how many )

frazzledhome

PDM do excellent end posts and turners

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

PDM do excellent end posts and turners

Ye there savage stakes. Don't split on top either.
Got a pallet of them last month for fencing.
All gone now

49801

freedominacup wrote: »

Because they will last far longer than any treated stake you will ever buy. The only thing I have that comes close to them for staying power are a few three inch square oak stakes the last of which are still standing after almost thirty years. The sleepers the oul boy put down 40 years ago are still there. I've replaced every stake that I've ever put up regardless of what treatment they were subjected to.

Have you tried PDM posts?

Nekarsulm

Some sleepers can have a serious "shake" in them Rolled one off the Ifor Williams trailer last autumn, and it broke in two. Only 24 inches off the ground. Would hate to be near it if driving it with a post driver.

ESB poles are excellent strainers. Should be lots knocking about Cork after the storm?

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Some sleepers can have a serious "shake" in them Rolled one off the Ifor Williams trailer last autumn, and it broke in two. Only 24 inches off the ground. Would hate to be near it if driving it with a post driver.

ESB poles are excellent strainers. Should be lots knocking about Cork after the storm?

Yeah I agree on the esb poles

tabby aspreme

wouldn't be impressed with PDM stakes, had to cut a piece off one and the creosote had only penetrated about 10 mm , for grant id use octowood stakes otherwise oak stakes at 3.50 and oak strainers at 25

mayota

PDM strainers are the job. About €22 incl vat. ESB poles good but can be very thick and hard driven.

freedominacup

49801 wrote: »

Have you tried PDM posts?

Yes just last year and I'd have high hopes for them. Got another couple of bales of them on Tuesday.

freedominacup

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Some sleepers can have a serious "shake" in them Rolled one off the Ifor Williams trailer last autumn, and it broke in two. Only 24 inches off the ground. Would hate to be near it if driving it with a post driver.

ESB poles are excellent strainers. Should be lots knocking about Cork after the storm?

I'd say the ones the oul boy put up were dug in.

Nekarsulm

Yeah, 9 inch or 12 inch bucket on the digger, go down at least 3 or 4 foot. Beat down the clay with the bucket when its back filled. Dig the slot at 90 degrees (or 45 degrees for a corner strainer) to the line of pull. I have some that were put down in 1988 and they are still rock solid.

3 the square

frazzledhome wrote: »

PDM do excellent end posts and turners

Are pdm the same posts as the frs Have does any one know ?

49801

3 the square wrote: »

Are pdm the same posts as the frs Have does any one know ?

Yes they are the same.

paddysdream

Think PDM stakes/strainers have a 20 year warranty.

Cresoted stakes and strainers seem to last longer.Know that tannalised stakes and strainers from certain places seem to have a very short lifespan although the type of ground they are used in can have a major bearing on this.

Quinn's are (were) selling cresoted stakes from the north and got 100 last year.Nice even stake but didn't seem to be as dark as the PDM ones.Think they were a bit cheaper though.
Oak is fine and well but what about the poor fool who has to drive staples into them?

Railway sleepers are ok as strainers but prefer proper 8 ft's to be honest.
Much harder to tie sheep wire around and get it to strain properly.Plus can have hidden flaws which cause them to crack as soon as the pressure comes on when straining the wire.

ESB poles are the business for hanging gates though,depending of course that they aren't too thick to drive or run the hanger through.

td5man

theres a few oak posts here since early 1950's wonder will the pdm posts be around in 60 years.
have used octoposts here seem to be better treated than the pdm ones, time will tell.

ford2600

freedominacup wrote: »

I'd say the ones the oul boy put up were dug in.

Got 6 poles off esb when they were doing works about 7 years ago. Made 25odd strainers.

Dug they in with a spade and crowbar. They won't be coming out. Creosote in the centre of them

Reggie.

ford2600 wrote: »

Got 6 poles off esb when they were doing works about 7 years ago. Made 25odd strainers.

Dug they in with a spade and crowbar. They won't be coming out. Creosote in the centre of them

Jesus that was hardship, I prefer to just the 12 ton spade myself :cool:

moy83

Reggie. wrote: »

Jesus that was hardship, I prefer to just the 12 ton spade myself :cool:

Way tighter fit with the bar and spade though

Reggie.

moy83 wrote: »

Way tighter fit with the bar and spade though

A couple of taps with the bucket cures that too

td5man

moy83 wrote: »

Way tighter fit with the bar and spade though

put one down over 4' with the post driver last week

moy83

td5man wrote: »

put one down over 4' with the post driver last week

Post driver is a good job alright . There's lads fencing off a bit of our place for a road at the minute with a post driver , I can't believe they are getting them all down without stone sending them astray

Mad4simmental

Allot of the old day sleepers were treated by dipping in boiled tar as far as I know. I don't think any of today's sleepers will last as long. We got a load of old CIE sleepers years ago and they are still in good nick. But all these were treated in boiled tar also. Grandfather reckons its the only way to treat fencing gear.

Greengrass1

When we moved here first their was an acre of soft wood trees down at the end of a field.
Were only getting to reseed this field now.
Any way my father cut them down and used them to fence the place. There all rotted now, but they have lasted 10yrs. Were replacing them now as we reseed the fields.

Was a very cheap way of fencing the place but was some work

3 the square

Any one have a post driver ? Wats a gud make and wat kind of money ???

Greengrass1

Got a second hand one 5 yrs ago. Very very hard to get them second hand.
Its a Malone. Telescopic one goes up about 20ft.
700e and all we had to do was put a new wire rope on it.
She's a bit worn on the hat and on the weight but it a super yoke to drive stakes

3 the square

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Got a second hand one 5 yrs ago. Very very hard to get them second hand.
Its a Malone. Telescopic one goes up about 20ft.
700e and all we had to do was put a new wire rope on it.
She's a bit worn on the hat and on the weight but it a super yoke to drive stakes

I can get loan of one from a guy that sells posts but his posts are shocking poor

49801

3 the square wrote: »

I can get loan of one from a guy that sells posts but his posts are shocking poor

For me a post knocker is ideal piece of equipment to be shared between neighbours to keep purchase price down... Else hire a guy with one in

3 the square

49801 wrote: »

For me a post knocker is ideal piece of equipment to be shared between neighbours to keep purchase price down... Else hire a guy with one in

An old man once told me that the only thing he would share with another man is d rosary

PN14

We have a malone post driver here with three way hydraulic adjustment was about 3k new 8-10 years ago. Excellent piece of kit but doesn't get used too often to be honest unless big job on. We'd never hitch it up to drive one or two post the old mallet used for that. We bought it when I was doing post & rail around the house and entrance passage it was working out the same to buy one than pay contractor to come and erect. Its the business for corner posts though & strainers and with hydraulic adjustment you can keep them straight:D

mayota

New Malone with side tilt and hydraulic toplink is €3000 incl vat.

freedominacup

mayota wrote: »

New Malone with side tilt and hydraulic toplink is €3000 incl vat.

Anyone have any idea of the prices on a vector?

vanderbadger

mayota wrote: »

New Malone with side tilt and hydraulic toplink is €3000 incl vat.

seems to be an add on donedeal for new malones for 2300 but maybe thats ex vat

PN14

Haven't looked but they are prob the models without hydraulic side tilt & hydraulic toplink. They're fine for knocking in posts but if you wanted to do some post and rail or keep normal fencing straight the hydraulic adjustment is a must

Reggie.

PN14 wrote: »

Haven't looked but they are prob the models without hydraulic side tilt & hydraulic toplink. They're fine for knocking in posts but if you wanted to do some post and rail or keep normal fencing straight the hydraulic adjustment is a must

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