Got learner permit...confused?!?

deegs

The good news is I got my LP exactly 3 weeks after going to the NDLS.

The bad news is I'm not sure what I got?

Basically I had a provisional, when I was last driving back from 99 to 2001 but it lapsed in 2003.

In 2013 (before the licence laws changed) I applied for a eb provisional and a month later passed my eb test and got my full eb licence added to my b and m licence.

However when I went into NDLS they could not issue me with the learner permit as I already had a provisional outstanding and in date. When the guy at the desk looked into it apparantly they never cancelled my eb provisional after I got my full eb.

He hummed and hawed and got managers and no one know what to do, he had to call head office eventually he came back and said he thinks they have sorted it and it should be grand.

So today I get my licence and I don't know if I am under the old or new system.

It seems I got my first A permit issued in 2001 (and a1 in 1999) so the 6 month rule does not apply and I can sit my test immediately. But the A2 I got in March this year...

Does this mean I can skip the IBT and just apply for the test?

Nomention of being restricted either?

Completely confused...
See attached for my licence restrictions...

Roadcraft

deegs wrote: »

The good news is I got my LP exactly 3 weeks after going to the NDLS.

The bad news is I'm not sure what I got?

Basically I had a provisional, when I was last driving back from 99 to 2001 but it lapsed in 2003.

In 2013 (before the licence laws changed) I applied for a eb provisional and a month later passed my eb test and got my full eb licence added to my b and m licence.

However when I went into NDLS they could not issue me with the learner permit as I already had a provisional outstanding and in date. When the guy at the desk looked into it apparantly they never cancelled my eb provisional after I got my full eb.

He hummed and hawed and got managers and no one know what to do, he had to call head office eventually he came back and said he thinks they have sorted it and it should be grand.

So today I get my licence and I don't know if I am under the old or new system.

It seems I got my first A permit issued in 2001 (and a1 in 1999) so the 6 month rule does not apply and I can sit my test immediately. But the A2 I got in March this year...

Does this mean I can skip the IBT and just apply for the test?

Nomention of being restricted either?

Completely confused...
See attached for my licence restrictions...

All categories on that permit have 991, first permit in category, as your old permit must have been out of date by more than 10 years.

So you would have to wait six months to sit a test on a first permit, you will also have to do IBT.

Best to complete IBT 1,3,5 for category 'A' then you will be unrestricted to practice for your test.

deegs

Roadcraft wrote: »

So you would have to wait six months to sit a test on a first permit, you will also have to do IBT.

OK thanks,
This is the part that threw me out... is the website wrong?
http://www.rsa.ie/rsa/learner-drivers/safe-driving1/6-month-rule/

Vologda69

Earlier bike permit is of no relevance as the entitlement is expired (5 years). You are classed as complete beginner on the bikes. You will have the do the IBT modules as you are under the new system. The RSA website has a good section on bikes.

deegs wrote: »

The good news is I got my LP exactly 3 weeks after going to the NDLS.

The bad news is I'm not sure what I got?

Basically I had a provisional, when I was last driving back from 99 to 2001 but it lapsed in 2003.

In 2013 (before the licence laws changed) I applied for a eb provisional and a month later passed my eb test and got my full eb licence added to my b and m licence.

However when I went into NDLS they could not issue me with the learner permit as I already had a provisional outstanding and in date. When the guy at the desk looked into it apparantly they never cancelled my eb provisional after I got my full eb.

He hummed and hawed and got managers and no one know what to do, he had to call head office eventually he came back and said he thinks they have sorted it and it should be grand.

So today I get my licence and I don't know if I am under the old or new system.

It seems I got my first A permit issued in 2001 (and a1 in 1999) so the 6 month rule does not apply and I can sit my test immediately. But the A2 I got in March this year...

Does this mean I can skip the IBT and just apply for the test?

Nomention of being restricted either?

Completely confused...
See attached for my licence restrictions...

deegs

Vologda69 wrote: »

Earlier bike permit is of no relevance as the entitlement is expired (5 years). You are classed as complete beginner on the bikes. You will have the do the IBT modules as you are under the new system. The RSA website has a good section on bikes.

As it happens I have completed the IBT and was told I don't have to wait 6 months to apply for the test...

Roadcraft

deegs wrote: »

As it happens I have completed the IBT and was told I don't have to wait 6 months to apply for the test...

You dont have to wait six months before applying for a test, but you can not sit the test until you have held you permit for six months on a first permit, code 991.

deegs

Roadcraft wrote: »

You dont have to wait six months before applying for a test, but you can not sit the test until you have held you permit for six months on a first permit, code 991.

What I meant was my IBT instructor said I can apply and sit the test immediately as per the RSA its 6 months from the 2001 date on the licence.

As per http://www.rsa.ie/rsa/learner-drivers/safe-driving1/6-month-rule/

I said that some instructors (here on boards) said that it was from when this current permit was issued... they didn't think this was the case.

I've emailed my licence to RSA but I've not had any word back...

Have you come across this scenario before?

Vologda69

deegs wrote: »

What I meant was my IBT instructor said I can apply and sit the test immediately as per the RSA its 6 months from the 2001 date on the licence.

As per http://www.rsa.ie/rsa/learner-drivers/safe-driving1/6-month-rule/

I said that some instructors (here on boards) said that it was from when this current permit was issued... they didn't think this was the case.

I've emailed my licence to RSA but I've not had any word back...

Have you come across this scenario before?

All previous permits only retain an entitlement for five years. Your permit expired in 2003, and the entitlement in 2008. It would therefore have no bearing on the 6 month rule. Your current licence has the 991 notation, so it seems you would have to wait 6 months. If you contact the Rsa & licensingqueries@rsa.ie they will give you the definitive answer.

deegs

Vologda69 wrote: »

All previous permits only retain an entitlement for five years. Your permit expired in 2003, and the entitlement in 2008. It would therefore have no bearing on the 6 month rule. Your current licence has the 991 notation, so it seems you would have to wait 6 months. If you contact the Rsa & licensingqueries@rsa.ie they will give you the definitive answer.

Thanks, I sent them the photo again last night. Will see if they reply.

deegs

Roadcraft wrote: »

You dont have to wait six months before applying for a test, but you can not sit the test until you have held you permit for six months on a first permit, code 991.

RSA rang me today.
Definitive answer is that even though the 991 code is there I can book my test immediately. No need to wait as my first provisional licence was in 2001. She said I would have to wait 6 months for my A2 as this is new, but for A1 or A no wait is needed.

Might be useful to someone in a similiar position in the future.