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Let go from work for confronting bullies

  • 09-04-2014 8:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10


    Hi have been working in a job for five months and was getting on fantastic my work was of an excellent standard and have been told this on numerous occasions my my managers
    I was still on probabtion
    I had gone to my managers on numerous occasions about the fact that I was being bullied in work. I was asking questions and being point blank ignored
    Being constantly laughed at, refused any help when I was busy although helped was offered to other team members, constantly being excluded ect
    It didn't affect my work though and I carried on meeting my targets ect
    Last Friday I couldn't take it any more and I called a meeting with my two managers telling them they have to address it now with the two involved as I physically could not take it anymore
    Today I was called in and let go, the reason being that although my work was fantastic I would be more suited to a management role.
    I got very upset and said surely this is not the answer instead of addressing it you let me go?
    I called another manager into the room who completely backed me up 100 percent but they still let me go with no notice just get out..
    Can they do this? Surely I have some rights even though I was on probabtion


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭sunshine and showers


    Sadly, I think they can do this if you're on probation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Surp82


    Wow that's really crap then :-(


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Not legal advice but, AFAIR if this hareshment is related to any one of the various discrimination grounds (age, gender etc,) then this would breach your statutory rights in a safe work environment. So it would be irrespective of if on a probationary period or not. However, this is offhand advice and you might just check other sites like citizens-information for a starting point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Wheelnut


    That's your side of the story, I wonder what's the other side?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Surp82


    Wheelnut wrote: »
    That's your side of the story, I wonder what's the other side?

    There is no other side that's what happened

    I have three employees saying the same thing happened to them and thanking me for standing up to them.
    One of them happens to be a manager In there who has just resigned over the situation


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You telling your managers how things are going to go down while on probation isn't really go down very well, when your the boss you can call the shots and make demands of other employees.
    It's tough but sometimes you got to just bite your tounge until your in a safe place to do something about it.
    It's an awful kick to loose a job in such a way, don't let it get you down, try and get something as soon as you can.
    Thinking of legal action isn't going to do much use you've no real rights and can be let go on a whim. Chin up and on to the next adventure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    You telling your managers how things are going to go down while on probation isn't really go down very well, when your the boss you can call the shots and make demands of other employees.
    It's tough but sometimes you got to just bite your tounge until your in a safe place to do something about it.
    It's an awful kick to loose a job in such a way, don't let it get you down, try and get something as soon as you can.
    Thinking of legal action isn't going to do much use you've no real rights and can be let go on a whim. Chin up and on to the next adventure.

    this post explains and exhibits fully how bullies get off with it scot free. well done op for standing up to this and yes right to challenge what has been done for the sake of others

    see after hours for an excellent thread on work related suicide


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Graces7 wrote: »
    this post explains and exhibits fully how bullies get off with it scot free. well done op for standing up to this and yes right to challenge what has been done for the sake of others

    see after hours for an excellent thread on work related suicide

    Graces you deal with HR or confide in a trusted manager to find a way forward, you do not start calling managers into meetings and start demanding people work for you when your under pressure. From what I've read above it seems op completely bypassed protocol and started trying to call the shots hence their comment about more suited to management that's basically saying your not able to take orders now get out of here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Surp82


    Graces you deal with HR or confide in a trusted manager to find a way forward, you do not start calling managers into meetings and start demanding people work for you when your under pressure. From what I've read above it seems op completely bypassed protocol and started trying to call the shots hence their comment about more suited to management that's basically saying your not able to take orders now get out of here.

    I don't know how you took that from what I wrote? I had been speaking to my managers on Skype on numerous occasions about how I was being ignores isolated ect
    I then called them in on Monday and told them that I deserve to be treated with dignity and respect in the work place ect and how would they feel if it was them
    I never demanded anyone to work for me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Surp82 wrote: »
    I don't know how you took that from what I wrote? I had been speaking to my managers on Skype on numerous occasions about how I was being ignores isolated ect
    I then called them in on Monday and told them that I deserve to be treated with dignity and respect in the work place ect and how would they feel if it was them
    I never demanded anyone to work for me?

    It's your wording, "you called in your managers", I don't know anyone that has evey called in their managers. Is it you arranged a meeting with your managers, in that meeting you said you were struggling with your work mates and felt ignored and isolated and could not take it anymore.
    You didn't leave your managers with a lot of options, if an employee is not getting on with other employees and is feeling pressure to work on their own it's a lot easier for management to let you go while your in the probation period.
    I know you should never be afraid to stand up for yourself and seek to better your lot but that doesn't always work in your favour.

    Demanded wasn't the right word, you requested additional help to do your job, when you didn't get it you still done the job well.

    You were probably wronged but I'm just conscious it's the way you approached and articulated yourself that let you down.

    This is probably more suited to work and jobs than legal discussions as by your own admission you couldn't take the job any more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It's your wording, "you called in your managers", I don't know anyone that has evey called in their managers. Is it you arranged a meeting with your managers, in that meeting you said you were struggling with your work mates and felt ignored and isolated and could not take it anymore.
    You didn't leave your managers with a lot of options, if an employee is not getting on with other employees and is feeling pressure to work on their own it's a lot easier for management to let you go while your in the probation period.
    I know you should never be afraid to stand up for yourself and seek to better your lot but that doesn't always work in your favour.

    Demanded wasn't the right word, you requested additional help to do your job, when you didn't get it you still done the job well.

    You were probably wronged but I'm just conscious it's the way you approached and articulated yourself that let you down.

    This is probably more suited to work and jobs than legal discussions as by your own admission you couldn't take the job any more.


    so in your opinion regardless of any law,. bs ok.

    not!

    and this is a legal problem.

    op i repeat that you did right and well nd did not fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It's your wording, "you called in your managers", I don't know anyone that has evey called in their managers. Is it you arranged a meeting with your managers, in that meeting you said you were struggling with your work mates and felt ignored and isolated and could not take it anymore.
    You didn't leave your managers with a lot of options, if an employee is not getting on with other employees and is feeling pressure to work on their own it's a lot easier for management to let you go while your in the probation period.
    I know you should never be afraid to stand up for yourself and seek to better your lot but that doesn't always work in your favour.

    Demanded wasn't the right word, you requested additional help to do your job, when you didn't get it you still done the job well.

    You were probably wronged but I'm just conscious it's the way you approached and articulated yourself that let you down.

    This is probably more suited to work and jobs than legal discussions as by your own admission you couldn't take the job any more.


    so in your opinion bullying,regardless of any law,. is ok.

    not!

    and this is a legal problem.

    op i repeat that you did right and well nd did not fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Graces7 wrote: »
    so in your opinion bullying,regardless of any law,. is ok.

    not!

    and this is a legal problem.

    op i repeat that you did right and well nd did not fail

    Where's the bullying, i'm not seeing it? Op didn't fit in with the new work colleagues, they didn't gel, that's not bullying.
    OP arranged the meeting with from what I can read above up to 3 managers, that's not normal procedure, they said he would be more suited in a management role, that comment said a lot.
    Management can't force people to get on with each other. It's not play school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Wheelnut


    Surp82 wrote: »
    There is no other side that's what happened

    :eek: Basic Rule of Life: There are two sides to every story.

    Your response probably illustrates your attitude. Management probably found themselves making the choice between sacking you, a probationer, or sacking more experienced workers. They took the choice that any management would.

    In your next job you should try harder to "fit in". I suspect that what you call bullying was really teasing and you were wide open for it because of your attitude.


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