QCA

Trader1991

One of my friends sent me this link. At the bottom of the document it says a 2.5 qca is automatically awarded a 2.2 degree even though a 2.2 degree is supposed to be a qca of 2.6...

Is this still done in the kemmy or is the link outdated??

Cheers..

highlydebased

There's a discretionary band of 0.10 for 2.1 and 2.2. So if you're that far off they'll give it to you.

http://www2.ul.ie/web/WWW/Services/Student_Affairs/Student_Administration/Student_Academic_Administration/Student%20Information/Results%20Information/Classification%20of%20Awards%20and%20Discretionary%20Bands

Hatch92

Trader1991 wrote: »

One of my friends sent me this link. At the bottom of the document it says a 2.5 qca is automatically awarded a 2.2 degree even though a 2.2 degree is supposed to be a qca of 2.6...

Is this still done in the kemmy or is the link outdated??

Cheers..

Im in a similar situation myself , how did it work out for you in the end did you get the degree and qca you hoped for ?

Also how much did you improve your qca in fourth year ?

im sitting at 2.73 now heading into 4th year in september

Trader1991

Hatch92 wrote: »

Im in a similar situation myself , how did it work out for you in the end did you get the degree and qca you hoped for ?

Also how much did you improve your qca in fourth year ?

im sitting at 2.73 now heading into 4th year in september

hey,

I averaged a 2.84 qca in fourth year and got my overall qca up to 2.57.

They awarded me a 2.2 degree which was the best I could have hoped for.

Busyness1

Hatch92 wrote: »

Im in a similar situation myself , how did it work out for you in the end did you get the degree and qca you hoped for ?

Also how much did you improve your qca in fourth year ?

im sitting at 2.73 now heading into 4th year in september

Just finished 4th year. Went into it with a 2.67 QCA came out with a 3.05.
Put the head down and you'll be fine.

Hatch92

Busyness1 wrote: »

Just finished 4th year. Went into it with a 2.67 QCA came out with a 3.05.
Put the head down and you'll be fine.

Thanks for the reassurance what kind of qca each semester did you get to boost it up to 3.05 ?

Busyness1

Got 3.32 in first semester and 3.48 in second semester. Had 2 dud groups for a 40% and 50% projects so it could have been higher in 2nd semester. Made it my sole focus for the year to leave with a 2.1 so maximize your productivity, use journals in all of your work to go from the b to the a. Can't emphasize enough how useful weekends are in getting on top of things... Use your weekends!

1huge1

highlydebased wrote: »

There's a discretionary band of 0.10 for 2.1 and 2.2. So if you're that far off they'll give it to you.

http://www2.ul.ie/web/WWW/Services/Student_Affairs/Student_Administration/Student_Academic_Administration/Student%20Information/Results%20Information/Classification%20of%20Awards%20and%20Discretionary%20Bands

Just for the record, that discretionary band also exists for a 1.1.

Between 3.3-3.4 you are in the discretionary band.

Busyness1

1huge1 wrote: »

Just for the record, that discretionary band also exists for a 1.1.

Between 3.3-3.4 you are in the discretionary band.

I know that for the Kemmy Business School, the way it works is: 2.2 = 2.6 QCA, 2.1 = 3.0 QCA and a 1.1 = 3.40 QCA.

If you are within .05 of any of the higher awards, they give it to you automatically (2.55, 2.95, 3.35), if you are .10 away from a 2.2 (2.50-2.54) you are given the 2.2 but if you are .10 from the 2.1 (2.90-2.94) or the 1.1 (3.30-3.34) it has to go before a committee who will decide what you are awarded. I don't think the student has any say here and I am not certain how likely you are to be given the higher award, it is totally at the discretion of the committee. I'm presuming attendance, engagement with lecturers etc would come into it and your work would be reviewed by the panel.

Cossax

Busyness1 wrote: »

I know that for the Kemmy Business School, the way it works is: 2.2 = 2.6 QCA, 2.1 = 3.0 QCA and a 1.1 = 3.40 QCA.

If you are within .05 of any of the higher awards, they give it to you automatically (2.55, 2.95, 3.35), if you are .10 away from a 2.2 (2.50-2.54) you are given the 2.2 but if you are .10 from the 2.1 (2.90-2.94) or the 1.1 (3.30-3.34) it has to go before a committee who will decide what you are awarded. I don't think the student has any say here and I am not certain how likely you are to be given the higher award, it is totally at the discretion of the committee. I'm presuming attendance, engagement with lecturers etc would come into it and your work would be reviewed by the panel.

There's nothing automatic about the .1 discretionary band AFAIK - it may be applied based on department/course criteria such as getting a certain grade in X module (maybe FYP or a clinical placement).

Busyness1

Certainly in the Kemmy Business School the .10 is applied automatically for a 2.2 award, the 2.1 and 1.1 you need to be within .05 to be given automatically and if you are outside of .05 but within 0.10 it will be referred to the committee.

Google this and you'll find more information. New user so it won't let me post link.
KBSchool_Policy_on_use_of_UL_Discretionary_Bands11Apr13.pdf

Polar Ice

Busyness1 wrote: »

Google this and you'll find more information. New user so it won't let me post link.
KBSchool_Policy_on_use_of_UL_Discretionary_Bands11Apr13.pdf

Liking the way this thread is now the first search result when you Google that
http://www.ul.ie/business/sites/default/files/files/KBSchool_Policy_on_use_of_UL_Discretionary_Bands11Apr13.pdf

scheister

Busyness1 wrote: »

I know that for the Kemmy Business School, the way it works is: 2.2 = 2.6 QCA, 2.1 = 3.0 QCA and a 1.1 = 3.40 QCA.

If you are within .05 of any of the higher awards, they give it to you automatically (2.55, 2.95, 3.35), if you are .10 away from a 2.2 (2.50-2.54) you are given the 2.2 but if you are .10 from the 2.1 (2.90-2.94) or the 1.1 (3.30-3.34) it has to go before a committee who will decide what you are awarded. I don't think the student has any say here and I am not certain how likely you are to be given the higher award, it is totally at the discretion of the committee. I'm presuming attendance, engagement with lecturers etc would come into it and your work would be reviewed by the panel.

i was in KBS last year for a masters ended up on 2.93 QCA went to the committee and was left at the 2.2. So its not a dead cert if you are in the band or close to it that you will be upped

Busyness1

scheister wrote: »

i was in KBS last year for a masters ended up on 2.93 QCA went to the committee and was left at the 2.2. So its not a dead cert if you are in the band or close to it that you will be upped

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, if it's a 2.2 your after .10 away from 2.6 will get you it but for a 2.1 or 1.1 you'll have to be within 0.05 to be sure you'll get it. Tough break... What masters did you do? Were you involved in the committee process at all?

scheister

Busyness1 wrote: »

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, if it's a 2.2 your after .10 away from 2.6 will get you it but for a 2.1 or 1.1 you'll have to be within 0.05 to be sure you'll get it. Tough break... What masters did you do? Were you involved in the committee process at all?

masters in taxation. no i was not involved at all 1st i heard when talking to my course coordinator after the results came out. From what i gather it was the external examiner they had the final say on weather to move you up rather then someone internal which was interesting. not sure if this is always the case or was the course coordinator shifting the blame

Busyness1

Good to know! In fairness though there's a big difference between a 2.2 undergrad and a 2.2 masters... a masters is a masters at the end of the day, higher level concepts and materials in a shorter space of time.. can't imagine it's impacted on you too much?

Polar Ice

Busyness1 wrote: »

In fairness though there's a big difference between a 2.2 undergrad and a 2.2 masters...

I highlighted the difference for you

Busyness1

Polar Ice wrote: »

I highlighted the difference for you

Polar, who let you out of the crèche thread?!! ha

Gael23

to go up to a 2.1 automatically you do have to be within 0.05. Otherwise though I would have thought a course coordinator or your lectures would make a case for students who were in front of the committee.

scheister

Busyness1 wrote: »

Good to know! In fairness though there's a big difference between a 2.2 undergrad and a 2.2 masters... a masters is a masters at the end of the day, higher level concepts and materials in a shorter space of time.. can't imagine it's impacted on you too much?

not in accounting or business. Its a 2.1, 1.1 or not interested in 90% of cases

Busyness1

ryanf1 wrote: »

to go up to a 2.1 automatically you do have to be within 0.05. Otherwise though I would have thought a course coordinator or your lectures would make a case for students who were in front of the committee.

Yes but as Scheister said, it was sent to the external examiner wasn't done internally probably to eliminate any bias towards students. I think there may be more leniency given toward an undergrad in that position as opposed to a postgrad.

Busyness1

scheister wrote: »

not in accounting or business. Its a 2.1, 1.1 or not interested in 90% of cases

Wow... I better start rolling up the sleeves then come Sept!!